2018-02-05 Moku Pona ==================== Inspired by Bongusta, I wrote a simple Gopher aggregator using Perl and called it moku pona which is toki pona for good food, or tasty, in other words a translation of Bongusta. Take a look: moku pona sources & documentation. Its output is a gopher menu you can browse yourself or host publically. It looks a bit like the Recent Changes of a wiki. New items show up at the top and disappear from the bottom so everybody is just mentioned once. Here’s how I added everybody who has posted to Gopher Club in 2018: mkdir -p ~/.moku-pona echo /phlogs/ | nc sdf.org 70 \ | sed -ne "s/\[[0-9][0-9]-[A-Z][a-z][a-z]-2018\] *//p" \ >> ~/.moku-pona/sites.txt Then I clicked through them all, trying to see whether they were actually active, and whether I felt I might want to read some more, and removed the little comments for each username, and here we are: moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/auzymoto/phlog "auzymoto" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/bradmac/Log "bradmac" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/cat/phlog "cat" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/cpider/ "cpider" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/daphne/ "daphne" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/gunnarfrost/ "gunnarfrost" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/imrowan/ "imrowan" moku-pona add grex.org:70/1/%7ejandal/phlog "jandal" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/jebug29/log "jebug29" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/jirka/Phlog/ "jirka" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/jynx/phlog/ "jynx" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/jzp/phlog "jzp" moku-pona add alexschroeder.ch:70 "kensanata" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/kvothe/phlog "kvothe" moku-pona add i-logout.cz:70/1/en/phlog/ "logout" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/melton/phlog "melton" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/mhj/phlog "mhj" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/notptr/ "notptr" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/nydel/phlog "nydel" moku-pona add grex.org:70/1/~papa/pgphlog/2018 "papa" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/pet84rik/BLOG "pet84rik" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/psztrnk/log "psztrnk" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/slugmax/phlog "slugmax" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/snowdusk/phlog "snowdusk" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/solderpunk/phlog "solderpunk" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/sparcipx/phlog "sparcipx" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/sysdharma/phlog "sysdharma" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/tfurrows/phlog "tfurrows" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/tomasino/phlog "tomasino" moku-pona add uninformativ.de:70/1/twitpher "uninformativ" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/xmanmonk/phlog "xmanmonk" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/yargo/glog "yargo" moku-pona add sdf.org:70/1/users/zelbrium/ "zelbrium" moku-pona add zelibertinegamer.me:70/1/phlog/ "zlg" moku-pona add uberspace.net:70/1/~defanor/ "defanor" moku-pona add dataswamp.org:70/1/~solene/ "solene" Next, update the list: moku-pona update And then read it. You’ll get most of the benefit when you run it the next day, of course. That’s when you’ll see updated phlogs move to the top. 😄 vf1 ~/.moku-pona/updates.txt Yeah, VF-1 is the best Gopher client. 😃 ​#Gopher #Moku_Pona ​#Moku_Pona Comments -------- (Please contact me if you want to remove your comment.) ⁂ Things that make me sad: $ moku-pona update Fetching auzymoto...unchanged Fetching bradmac...unchanged Fetching cat...unchanged Fetching cpider...unchanged Fetching daphne...unchanged Fetching gunnarfrost...unchanged Fetching imrowan...unchanged Fetching jandal...unchanged Fetching jebug29...unchanged Fetching jirka...unchanged Fetching jynx...unchanged Fetching jzp...unchanged Fetching kensanata...unchanged Fetching kvothe...unchanged Fetching logout...unchanged Fetching melton...unchanged Fetching mhj...unchanged Fetching notptr...unchanged Fetching nydel...unchanged Fetching papa...unchanged Fetching pet84rik...unchanged Fetching psztrnk...unchanged Fetching slugmax...unchanged Fetching snowdusk...unchanged Fetching solderpunk...unchanged Fetching sparcipx...unchanged Fetching sysdharma...unchanged Fetching tfurrows...unchanged Fetching tomasino...unchanged Fetching uninformativ...unchanged Fetching xmanmonk...unchanged Fetching yargo...unchanged Fetching zelbrium...unchanged Fetching zlg...unchanged – Alex Schroeder 2018-02-05 14:18 UTC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Today I am traveling and I realized that moku pona needs to be installed online somewhere! – Alex 2018-02-06 07:34 UTC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you, kvothe, for the nice words about moku pona. This warms my heart. – Alex 2018-02-06 17:19 UTC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Then again, psztrnk is critical of aggregating in the first place. I’m not sure what to say to that. – Alex Schroeder 2018-02-06 20:27 UTC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- What about Bongusta, asks logout. I don’t know. Bongusta was the first site where I saw phlogs from outside SDF. That was very important for me, and I imagine it will remain important in the future. Having a well known starting point is important. Plus, if gopherspace grows, we will soon run into preferences. Perhaps I would like to avoid this phlog or that phlog, or I’ll want to add a phlog that somebody else doesn’t want to add. The freedom to do different is important to me, even if there is no immediate need for it right now. It’s cool to have a tool that enables people to run their own aggregators without people feeling like they need to. It’s like any other freedom: you are free to service your own car, but you are also free to take a cab, or hitch a ride, or anything else. How many different kinds of public aggregators will we need in a world where 28 of 36 phlogs I follow are on SDF and I guess the total number of sites I might be interested in is not much more than that? One? Two? Three? Not much more than that is my guess. And that’s why Bongusta absolutely has a place, even if there are tools that enable other people to run similar sites. So, having the freedom to run an aggregator is super cool, even if there is just a need to run one or two. In short, I would love for Bongusta to stay. 😄 – Alex Schroeder 2018-02-06 20:50 UTC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- And then there’s auzymoto’s post talking about two kinds of subscriptions: subscribe to changes to a gophermap like moku pona does. or actually spider a site and look for changes. Auzymoto also lists some pitfalls for this: links leaving the site, circular links, stuff like that. And I’d also think about all the false positives I can see. I’m not interested in all the new links, I think. I’m just looking for new day posts. Perhaps a possible compromise is to subscribe to gophermaps and list any addition to that gopher map in the aggregated view? It would only work one or two levels deep, I guess. Perhaps that is limited enough for it work. – Alex Schroeder 2018-02-06 21:09 UTC