X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 110f55,2b879be11bfc68b X-Google-Attributes: gid110f55,public X-Google-Thread: f996b,2b879be11bfc68b X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-Thread: fbb9d,2b879be11bfc68b X-Google-Attributes: gidfbb9d,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-10-01 22:10:44 PST Path: bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!sashimi.wwa.com!not-for-mail From: rl3s@netcom.com (Zeus Paleologos) Newsgroups: rec.arts.ascii,alt.ascii-art,alt.binaries.pictures.ascii Subject: Talk: Newbies and Codgers Followup-To: rec.arts.ascii,alt.ascii-art,alt.binaries.pictures.ascii Date: 1 Oct 1994 23:54:18 -0500 Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Lines: 34 Sender: boba@wwa.com Approved: boba@wwa.com Message-ID: <36ledq$353@sashimi.wwa.com> References: <35s6fq$1r8@gagme.wwa.com> <365kbl$5uq@gagme.wwa.com> <36dl07$hji@gagme.wwa.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sashimi.wwa.com Xref: bga.com rec.arts.ascii:1868 alt.ascii-art:12530 alt.binaries.pictures.ascii:1239 Carl Grimes (grimes@habitats.com) wrote: : Zeus Paleologos responded: : >I believe the proper term is 'oldie' not 'codger,' thank you. : Nothing personal, Zeus. I've been around awhile and my son has been for : nearly 10 years! He is definitely an 'oldie' but is also definitely not a : 'codger." : I'm talking about a different class of 'oldies' that are more 'codgerie', not : just experienced, but impatiently jaded. They tend to hang out on the newbie : news groups, grumpily answering the same questions, but deriding the newbies : on an aside. If they don't like answering newbie questions, then why do they : answer them? I have also found them in the very serious news groups, : expounding statistics, rarely posted FAQs, and other archane (and hard : to find, harder to validate) trivia as if *everybody* of course knows... And : if you don't then why are you even alive? That's what I mean by 'codger.' : Just thought it might be fun to see what we could come up with! Not to nit-pick, Carl, but the term 'codger' really doesn't seem to be appropriate here, IMO. The dictionary describes a 'codger' as an 'old miser.' OED relates it to 'cadger' who is described as 'one who gets his living by trickery.' Modern colloquial usage connotes an 'eccentric old man who is likely more than he seems.' Frankly, these don't seem to fit your description of a Net-know-it-all, many of whom have achieved their status more by their tenacity than their tenure. -- "Entities shall not be multiplied beyond necessity." [Occam's Razor]