X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,a2c1836789c9529 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-Thread: fbb9d,a2c1836789c9529 X-Google-Attributes: gidfbb9d,public X-Google-Thread: 110f55,a2c1836789c9529 X-Google-Attributes: gid110f55,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-09-21 10:05:04 PST Path: bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!sashimi.wwa.com!not-for-mail From: gsl2598@trex.oscs.montana.edu (Sean Lambert) Newsgroups: rec.arts.ascii,alt.ascii-art,alt.binaries.pictures.ascii Subject: Talk: GIF->ASCII: Is it Art? Date: 20 Sep 1994 12:23:35 -0500 Organization: Montana State University Lines: 24 Sender: boba@wwa.com Approved: boba@wwa.com Message-ID: <35n5qn$831@gagme.wwa.com> References: <34ecqn$bek@gagme.wwa.com> <34pdok$hf6@gagme.wwa.com>,<354la3$cja@gagme.wwa.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gagme.wwa.com Xref: bga.com rec.arts.ascii:1718 alt.ascii-art:12182 alt.binaries.pictures.ascii:1147 In article <354la3$cja@gagme.wwa.com>, cat@bga.com (Dr. Cat) writes: >Art is a word that most people disagree on the definition of. It's >pointless to argue "no, no the word art means THIS" because there simply >is no consensus. [cut] > -- Dr. Cat This seems like a really close discussion to the "Is photography art?" discussion. As usual, when any new form of 'art' appears, it is often rejected as such by the contemporary art establishment. It looks like the GIF->ASCII conversions could be criticized by the "true" ASCII artists in the same way that photography was criticized by the painters early in its history (and somewhat today). I took a class last year which spent an entire simester discussing this topic, and I can see this thread going on for ever, as long as people maintain interest. =] If anyone would like some text references for articles about photography as art (if you would like to try and apply them here or something) I can probably dig up some notes. Sean Lambert sum1els@cs.montana.edu