X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f996b,be7ecceadeff64b8 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-Thread: fbb9d,be7ecceadeff64b8 X-Google-Attributes: gidfbb9d,public X-Google-Thread: 110f55,be7ecceadeff64b8 X-Google-Attributes: gid110f55,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-09-03 11:29:11 PST Path: bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!sashimi.wwa.com!gagme.wwa.com!not-for-mail From: boba@wwa.com (Bob Allison) Newsgroups: rec.arts.ascii,alt.ascii-art,alt.binaries.pictures.ascii Subject: Talk: Should I html'ize the FAQ? Date: 3 Sep 1994 13:27:48 -0500 Organization: WorldWide Access (SM) Chicagoland Internet Services Lines: 130 Sender: boba@gagme.wwa.com Approved: boba@wwa.com Message-ID: <34af74$5na@gagme.wwa.com> References: <33tklt$i5k@gagme.wwa.com> <340ai5$9ko@gagme.wwa.com> <340s90$hj8@gagme.wwa.com> <34975f$ifl@gagme.wwa.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gagme.wwa.com Xref: bga.com rec.arts.ascii:1514 alt.ascii-art:11741 alt.binaries.pictures.ascii:1064 Collin Forbes wrote: > >Joshua Bell (jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca) wrote: > >: Maintaining HTML documents is MUCH simpler than maintaining plain >: text documents; no worries about formatting! No need to juggle >: word wrapping! The drudgery of adding in new hyperlinks is about >: the only downer. > >Yeah, but in your "awful html example" you conveniently "hid" the >< > escapes needed to pass "<" and ">" through the html parser, >yes, even in
 structures.
>
>It's no big deal usually, but in an ASCII ART FAQ, at least half the
>pictures will contain a "<" or ">", sometimes in large quantities.  It
>sounds like too much bother.

   This could be worked around by doing a search and replace with either
( and ) or with the escape codes.  If escape codes are put in, it makes
dealing with the art more difficult.

>Now if you were to convert the art into GIFs, and inline them into the
>html faq--THAT would be something to behold.  :)

   The big problem, as I've mentioned before, is that I would probably 
use the FAQ portion of the ASCII Art Resources file.  It has a lot of 
ASCII art in it.  And some of that art is wrapped with text, like:

   The first four use the standard printable set, and can be viewed anywhere,
anytime, on any equipment.  If you can view text, you can view art.  They 
are:
 
   o  Line drawing - Such as the 3-D snowman         ..:::::::::..
      below.  Line art is made using              ..:::::::::::::::..
      characters for their shapes.              ..:::::: ====== :::::..
                                               ..::::: ========== ::::..
      In the case of the candle at right,     ..::::: ==== |\ ==== ::::..
      characters were chosen for their        .::::: ==== /%#| ==== :::..
      shape AND brightness.                   .::::: === |&@/ ==== :::::.
                                              ..::::: ===_\|_==== :::::..
      For how to make ASCII art, see           ..::::: /| .:. | :::::...
      Ouestion 9 below.                         ..:::: || .:. | ::::...
                                                 ...:: (| .:. | ::....
      Candle Line Drawing by The Scarecrow.        .... | .:. | ....
 
   o  Lettering - Large and styled like the title "ASCII ART RESOURCES" above,
      ond like the lettering below.  It can be made by hand, or it can be
                                                               generated by
       _    ___  _____  _____  ___   ___   _____  _  _   ___   using special
      | |  | __!|_   _||_   _|| __! | _ ) |_   _|| \| | / __!  software.  For
      | |_ | __!  | |    | |  | __! |   \  _| |_ |    || \_ \  more info on
      !___!!___!  !_!    !_!  !___! !_!\_\!_____!!_!\_| \___/  auto-lettering
                                                               programs for
      use on some systems, see Question 13.  This is a 'Geometric Article'.
      It is used as a wrap-around for the hand drawn word "LETTERING" above.
 
   o  Gray Scale picture - These                  :x<:> ?%8xx!:i:`MHbLX
     |    ||      rcvunxzjft  |       :*:!!:nM.~!~`<i!lI?  |        :@8R?R?88ex  .boba94  WM888M88(W888888f
     |  Darker    .'`,^:";~   |      .oX"#MMX!!R88b ~"##**".d8f?RRX8PW8888888f
     !________________________!    .u8888iXMMnWU7T#@s.     @88kX888RN88888888f
       Scale from Jorn Barger.    .@888888NK9*MR88N86Q:.. x8T888R#88888888888f
                                 x8888888888@iX#M@8888888N88888#X@88888888888f
      Einstein GIF conversion   d88888888888kM888NN868RRRRRRR5b@8888888888888f
          by The Scarecrow.    '8888888888888!M888888888888888888888888888888!
 
   o  3-D image - They can be viewed by people with similar vision in both
      eyes.  You try to focus as if you are looking at the back of the
      monitor.  The image should pop into focus and create a 3-D illusion.
      Other 3-D images are viewed by putting your nose on the monitor glass.
 
       .-~~\           ::::::    .-~~\        ::::::   For automated help in
      /     \  _       |::::|   /     \ _     |::::|   making 3-D images,
      ~x    .-~_)_     l~~~~!   ~x   .-~_)_   l~~~~!   you can use a program
        ~>x".-~   ~-.   \RC/      ~x".-~   ~-. \RC/    called 'sirdvu11'.
     _   ( /         \   ||    _  ( /         \ ||     For red-blue 3-D,
     ||   T  o  o     Y  ||    ||  T o  o      Y||     you can use DTA
   ==:l   l   <       !  (3  ==:l  l  <        !(3     (Dave's Targa
      \\   \  .__/   /  /||     \\  \  ._/    / ||     Animation), and for
       \\ ,r"-,___.-'r.//||      \\,r"-,___.-'r/||     stereograms you need
        }^ \.( )   _.'//.||      }^\. ( )  _.-//||     a program called STAREO.
       /    }~Xi--~  //  ||     /   }~Xi--~  // ||\    And there's also
      Y    Y I\ \    "   ||    Y   Y I\ \    "  || Y   "mk3d.lha" for the
      |    | |o\ \       ||    |   | |o\ \      || |   Amiga.  For more
      |    l_l  Y T      ||    |   l_l  Y T     || |   information, see
      l      "o l_j      |!    l     "o l_j     || !   the alt.3d group.
       \                 ||     \               ||/
     .--^.     o  -Row .^||.  .--^.     o -Row  ||--.  3-D snowman by
          "           ~  `'        "           ~`'     Rowan Crawford.


   Once the art-text is html'ized, it's real hard to work with, unless 
you strip the html out of it.  The html code throws offs the alignment of 
the art-text when it's not being viewed in a web browser.

   So when you are working on a portion of art-text that contains html 
code, the code has to be stripped, the art-text modified, and the code 
put back in.

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