X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fbb9d,25fb686ac46c0d5d X-Google-Attributes: gidfbb9d,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-21 02:38:04 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!lios!news.gweep.ca!not-for-mail From: Brian Inglis Newsgroups: rec.arts.ascii Subject: Re: [DIS] A little history question Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Systematic Software Lines: 43 Sender: robomod@lios.aq2.gweep.ca Approved: rec-arts-ascii-moderator@gweep.ca Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: lios.aq2.gweep.ca 1043145484 7279 127.0.0.1 (21 Jan 2003 10:38:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@lios.aq2.gweep.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:38:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:37:53 +0000 (GMT) X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.147.131.211 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 X-Gweep-Cleanmime: quoted=78% miswrapped=12% Xref: archiver1.google.com rec.arts.ascii:262 On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 07:16:25 +0000 (UTC), google@inio.org (Ian Rickard) wrote: >This may seem like a bit of a weird question, but here we go: > >Does anyone know of ASCII-Art generation software that considered >sub-character source image detail and was publicly available in or >before October 1996? > >The earliest occurrence that I was able to find with a brief search >was ASCIIMac, released in 1998. It did sub-character analysis and >even did it in real time. I'm reasonably sure that if someone was >doing it real-time then, someone else had to have been doing it on >still images long before that. > > >As a sample of what I'm talking about, here's what the output might >look like given an input of a black skewed triangle on a white >background. On the left is what the output from the kind of software >I'm interested would look like. On the right is the output of what >the much simpler algorithms that were around as early as the 70s would >generate. > >sub-cell detail simple brightness > '#$$h, .:MM:. > '#$h, .:M:. > '#h, .::. > '\. .:. Looks like you might be able to do something like that using a regular OCR program, matching the character cell detail against a standard glyph's characteristics, perhaps after training against samples of a given output character set. Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Brian.Inglis@CSi.com (Brian dot Inglis at SystematicSw dot ab dot ca) fake address use address above to reply abuse@aol.com tosspam@aol.com abuse@att.com abuse@earthlink.com abuse@hotmail.com abuse@mci.com abuse@msn.com abuse@sprint.com abuse@yahoo.com abuse@cadvision.com abuse@shaw.ca abuse@telus.com abuse@ibsystems.com uce@ftc.gov spam traps