ARGUING WITH MYSELF I often wonder why I post on Usenet and occasional web forums (where my level of engagement is usually limited by the terrible interface). I've got a lot of theories, most not very unusual, that I don't have time to explore here now, but I think a large part of it is the idea that I should be able to perceive what everyone else is thinking. It's similar to me trying to guess the lyrics to songs I've never heard before while watching music videos on TV, and try to sing to them in unison. It's a little challenge to post a response while expecting the other person's response and have a response ready for that. To be honest this mainly applies to when I've got into an argument with someone, and I won't deny that at such points I sometimes cave into the temptation to try and set them up for a particular response. In a way it's manipulative and nasty, except that often whomever I'm arguing with has already got abusive at that point anyway, but what I'm really trying to do is argue with myself. I'm trying to prove to myself that I can guess exactly the thought process of the other person. After all there's usually not much real function to trying to prove one's point after about the third post over the same disagreement in a thread - when reading such exchanges between other people I know I'm usually well decided on who'se wrong by that point. Now if you contrast this with real life, on those rare occasions where I'm actually in the physical presence of the human that I'm talking to, I generally behave quite differently. I voice my opinion once, and if I disagree with the response I generally keep it to myself unless the topic is of some immediate practical importance to me. What I actually do is imagine the likely exchange that would go on if I continued and assume from that either the uselessness of going through it for real, or find another approach to demonstrate the answer to an argument that I imagine they would make against my proposal if I continued to push it further (note: this can piss some people off, they probably find it disrespectful and would prefer a more open discussion). I don't know how common this sort of argumentive strategy is. I am pretty sure that most people wouldn't admit it to themselves, let alone describe it on the internet. For me it ties in directly to my philosophy of loving and hating everything at the same time, because you switch from arguing one side to the other in your mind. Sure you don't actually believe in the logic of the opposing side, but just by understanding the logic of it you can work back towards the flaws and trade-offs in your own plan that you might not otherwise admit to yourself. Then again you can also quite easily convince yourself of the problems in every proposal and end up not really doing anything, just sitting alone arguing with yourself. I'm probably quite a long way down that road actually. - The Free Thinker