USENET UNGROUPED I thought I'd write a quick post in recognition, and mostly celebration, of Google Groups finally discontinuing their Web-Usenet gateway on the 22nd of Feb. (in whatever time zone they care about): https://support.google.com/groups?p=usenet Their banner warning about the planned discontinuation at the top of the Google Groups pages now says: Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable. Given how Google's service has been massively, and uncontrollably, abused by spammers, this is definately for the best. Spam filters on news servers, or outright rejection of all posts sent from Google Groups, has made following discussions involving Google Groups users unreliable. Given Google's complete failure to take any effective action against the spam floods coming through their gateway (tens of thousands of spam posts a day in the recent months), this is the best solution. Those selfishly sticking to posting via Google Groups even though its operator had clearly become the least responsible server operator on Usenet, are now forced to find a real news server. At the same time they might even find an appreciation of things such as post-wrapping, readable quoting, threading, and not replying to posts that are thirty years old. But perhaps that's too much to hope for. On the down side, this leaves narkive.com as the main web Usenet archive (posting via it apparantly doesn't work). But it doesn't have the historical content that Google Groups aquired when they bought Dejanews, so for now the archives are split between Google Groups for the best archive of old content, and Narkive for new posts. That's for so long as Google do keep their archive accessible, and their website has already become very difficult to navigate without Javascript. Ironically Google somehow made searching on Google Groups quite broken years ago too. It also means that people are probably less likely to stumble onto and discover Usenet via Google Groups, which is actually how I first saw it. Although I then set up a news reader in order to send posts myself, because it was already obvious to me that Google Groups was a rubbish interface (which has only got worse since). Yet by allowing so many groups to be flooded with spam, Google already broke that advantage anyway. Whereas with a news reader you can use killfiles to remove spam, and many news servers run spam filters themselves, on Google Groups you were just stuck with it, so the Google-view of Usenet as walls of drug and gambling ads was really unrepresentative. The question is also open as to the purpose of the spam. Most likely it was for SEO - improving page rankings in Google search results. If anything that should have given Google more reason to pay attention, but apparantly not. Hopefully now that Google aren't putting new posts on the web, there won't be so much incentive for spammers to switch to tring to post their rubbish via real news servers. Overall this whole saga has said a lot about the character of Google as a company, and something about the general internet society today as well. Had Usenet not been associated with Google, you'd imagine people thinking that it would be a good thing for it to be linked to a major tech company at a time when it's user-base is disappearing. In reality such influences of the modern internet have proven poisonous, and it's better off now stuck back in the same corner of the internet where it started. Yet that still doesn't bode well for its future. - The Free Thinker