Subj : HR 5102 & S 2905
To   : DaiTengu
From : The Curmudgeon
Date : Mon Oct 21 2019 11:23 am

-=> DaiTengu spoke thus to The Curmudgeon <=-

  TC> Hey, we learned that from Clinton when it was ok to lie as long as you
 TC> mean well. :)

 Da>  Whataboutism.  Bill lied about geting his dick sucked and the house
 Da> voted to impeach him for it.  Trump has made over 13,000 false or
 Da> misleading claims since he took office.

 that, my friend, is not an impeachable offense so nice try. There were a
itany
of charges brought against him and yes, Clinton was a habitual liar but hey
he probably was your guy.

 Da> You can't deny it, so you try to justify it by saying other politicians
 Da> lie. Here's the thing, Trump ran on not being a politician, so which is
 Da> it?

 so what exactly did he lie about?  Oh yeah, I'm sure you'll say 13,000 times
but are they all lies and misstatements or are the majority of them just not
fitting the native of the alphabet media? 

 Da> How can you honestly support someone who will flat out lie about the
 Da> stupidest things? About things that don't matter? Fuck, man. Support

 Again , I question all this as fact and not just hyperbole to discredit a
POTUS that the media and the Democrats , of course, are trying their best to
destroy.

 Da> another GOP candidate, I'm fine with that, Trump is just a horrible
 Da> human being.

 He wasn't my first choice and he is bombastic to a huge degree but what he
is is a man constantly under attack for both his job and it's personal with
far too many in the left.  His nature is not to stand and let people unduly
attack him and his family and I can understand that.

 TC> You should maybe get a copy of that transcript and educate yourself dude.

 Da>  Have it. Read it. Educated. My opinion stands.

 If you actually read the whole report and not the synopsis put out by his
detractors you might think otherwise. Either that or your opinion was formed
before you read it and only looked for your confirmation. :)

 Da>> I honestly wanted him to succeed, I didn't want to see our country
 Da>> become the laughingstock of the world, but here we are.

 TC> Right now the Democrats and their primary debates are providing a lot of
 TC> good laughs. Have you ever seen such a group of "free everything" givers
 TC> together at one time?

 Da>  Dodge the comment all you want.  We. Are. The. Laughingstock. Of. The.

 Not dodge the comment... just adding to it and putting it in perspective. 

 Da> World.  Turkey just walked all over Mr. "Art of the Deal". Trump is
 Da> considered weak, ineffectual, and a baffoon by every other world
 Da> leader.  I bet even Boris Johnson thinks Trump is an idiot.

 Of course they do, the leaders of socialist leaning countries are indeed 
amazed and disheartened by his unwilling attitude to bow down to their way
of thinking.  Not at all surprising however, weak and ineffectual... hardly 
I don't belive China is in that category.  Frankly I think Boris Johnson is
missing a few brain cells himself but that's just me. :)

 TC> Oh, don't forget there is never anything free, someone has to pay for in
 TC> in some way or another.

 Da>  Yes, we know. The candidates on stage know, and they've put forth
 Da> plans on how to pay for things that other civilized countries provide
 Da> their citizens.  There was a billionare on stage at the debate, and he
 Da> wholeheartedly agreed with Warren's "Tax the rich" plan. He agreed with
 Da> her that billionares shouldn't actually be a thing.

 Ah the old class envy strikes again.  Ok, so you don't think there should be
any billionaires as well I'm guessing from your post.  If everyone had the same
amount of income, asserts and whatever... just who would invest in new and
expanding 
business that hire people and pay taxes to fund the government?  The poor don't
hire people to build things and that's an economic fact.  Sorry, instead of 
vilifying that group , maybe we should all aspire to becoming independently
wealthy
ourselves. Oh, and the road to success is never working for someone else.. it's

taking the risk with your money and time, working not 8 hours a day for a wage
but
working 12 hours a day and more to grow your business, hoping it succeeds and
then 
if it does pouring nearly all that back into it for years before finally
achieving
that said independence.  It's a long hard road with no guarantee of success.

 
I've been rich and I've been poor. Rich is better.

Greeting from
The Curmudgeon 
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