Subj : Re: Lever To : Gamgee From : IB Joe Date : Sun Sep 13 2020 07:44 am On 12 Sep 2020, Gamgee said the following... Ga> The OP was talking about a "self-defense" AR. Ga> Ga> Makes no sense to have an AR for that purpose chambered in 9mm. Ga> Are you sure... Most people are more accurate with a long gun over a pistol. Never mind accuracy, most people just find long guns easier to handle. Most,all, defensive shooting are done withing a few feet.. or at most yards aways from you. If you are claiming "self defense" and you are shooting someone at long ranges... you might be the criminal. The problem with using high powered rounds, in any situation never mind a self defense situation, is that you own the bullet after it leaves the gun. If it travels through the perpetrator and into someone else ... its all on you... That incidental victim is all on you... and they could be a a family member. When I carry, and I carried all the time... while in Florida ... Not today because I'm in the Socialistic Republic of Canada... I used a 9mm with a R,I.P. round. I chose R.I.P rounds for my daily carry gun because they fragment upon impact... and those fragments taking their own trajectories. My daily carry gun, 2 mags plus one in the chamber totaled 35 rounds. Enough to "STOP", or repel, any threat. I argue that you should have most, if not all, your self defense firearms chambered in the same caliber. When shit actually hits the fan during a Zombie Apocalypse, and we're almost there now, you'll be happy to have more than on firearm to use to repel said zombies from eating your family. Moreover, I'm cheap AF and 9mm rounds can be bought in bulk for pennies per round... I've paid from .15 to .17 cents per round... Obviously, my R.I.P. rounds were more. There is a reason 9mm is the most popular round... All hail 9mm, you are righteous and awesome in your ballistics. As it stands.... the best self defense round is 9mm. If you cannot repel a threat with that round... your penis is small and you're trying to compensate with that with the use of a higher caliber. Just saying... IB Joe AKA Joe Schweier SysOp of Joe's BBS -=JoesBBS.com=- --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Windows/64) * Origin: Joe's BBS, JoesBBS.com, Telnet:23 SSH:22 HTTPS:80 .