Subj : Re: SHIELD PLUS To : Gamgee From : Moondog Date : Sun Oct 31 2021 10:48 am Re: Re: SHIELD PLUS By: Gamgee to Moondog on Sat Oct 30 2021 07:59 pm > -=> Moondog wrote to Gamgee <=- > > > > I carried a regular Shield 9 for a long while and about a year ago got > > > the Plus model. There is virtually no difference in physical > > > dimensions, just a very small bit wider on the grip, not really > > > noticeable at all. The Plus has a much more textured grip surface, it > > > almost like sandpaper, which results in a solid/firm hold on it. The > > > increased magazine capacity is a huge bonus and gives peace of mind. > > > highly recommend it. I've always thought a .40 cal in a handgun this > > > small is on the borderline of too "snappy" for effective follow-up > > > shots. With today's modern ammo, 9mm is perfectly adequate. The Plus > > > fits and works fine with all existing holsters made for the original > > > Shield. > > > Mo> I've read the frames are very similar in size between the 9 and > > Mo> 40 M&P;s and t he 40 can accep the 9mm barrel and mags. I'm > > Mo> considering getting a 9mm barrel for lighter practicing loads > > > A quick Google search shows mixed answers/results on that question. > > Personally I would never do such a thing. For one reason, the point of > > aim would be different because of the different ballistics. Doesn't > > really make any sense. If you can't practice with a .40, why carry a > > .40? If it's too heavy of a cartridge for you, sell it and buy a 9. > > Mo> Midwayusa and Brownells sell drop-in replacement barrels to > Mo> convert the 40 to a 9mm. It's by no means a form of bodgery or > Mo> kludging to make them work. > > If you say so. > > Mo> Regarding training with other calibers, this is done all the time > Mo> with having a matching firearm chambered in .22lr. The weight, > > I've been shooting for 40 years, and nobody I've ever known has ever > done that. Your mileage may vary. > > Mo> feel and handliing are the same. The recoil is only different. > Mo> Sights on a defensive pistol are not what you'd call match grade, > Mo> and should be close enough with the right choice of ammo. I can > Mo> also drop in a .357 Sig barrel in my M&P, and that caliber uses > Mo> the same magazines as the 40. 9mm is a cheaper alternative to > Mo> shooting and even handloading 40 cal, which is why I'd consider > Mo> the opportunity that is brought by having the ability to swap and > Mo> barrel and mag and retain the feel and trigger pull of my 40 > Mo> compact. > > Uh-huh. How many rounds of 9 would you have to shoot to get back the > cost of that barrel and magazine(s)? I'm guessing the number is in the > thousands. Why not just shoot the actual ammo the gun is going to be > shooting in a real life situation? That way you're not surprised by the > extra recoil, and might be able to make some follow up shots that count. > > You do what you want, but in my opinion it's not a very good idea. > > > > ... A day without sunshine is like night. Last time I checked, a factory 9mm barrel for my M&P compact was $85. A Storm Lake barrel costs $179. In good times when a box of 50 rounds of 9mm was right around $10-12, either price isn't that bad for allowing someone to make their pistil into a modular platform. Regarding training with sub calibers, the idea isn't new. Uncommon, maybe. It's an alternative to dry firing, where you get the feel of the gun and the trigger pull without seeing the effects of pulling the trigger. I saw one dry fire simulator that involves a barrel insert that connects to your phne via bluetooth, and it detects movements such as jerking the trigger through the use of motion sensors. The display on your phone will show you a graph of how the pistol reacted as you pulled the trigger. Regardless the method, it's all about muscle memory and training your eyes and hands to bring up the gun and align the sights with the least amount of wasted steps. --- þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.net .