Subj : Re: 30 super - opinions? To : Moondog From : Gamgee Date : Sat Aug 13 2022 08:28 am -=> Moondog wrote to All <=- Mo> I think we might've grazed over it awhile back, but there is a Mo> new cartridge that came out early this year called 30 super. Mo> It's a lighter lesser diameter bullet than the 9mm, but the case Mo> is longer. Their about the same legth, except for the case Mo> diameter is smaller. A .308" 110 grain bullet versus a 124 grain Mo> or greater .356" diameter projectile. Velocity is higher, which Mo> makes up for the lack of size. In an S&W Shield+, capacity is 13 Mo> rounds compared to 7 rounds of 9mm. A slightly extended mag Mo> which offers more to hold on to provides 16 round capacity. Mo> Federal , Remington, Seepr, CCI and Hornady are all offering the Mo> round, so it's not like looking for 5.7 or 22TCM. I won't be getting one any time soon. In my personal opinion, I don't want to carry anything weaker than a 9mm. The *only* advantage that I can see this cartridge providing is higher magazine capacity. I've already solved that by upgrading my S&W Shield to a Shield Plus. Honestly the only way I see this being beneficial is to a .380 Auto user who wants a little more punch, but doesn't want to go "all the way" to a 9mm ... (which is a little strange). Here a a couple of decent reviews: https://gunmagwarehouse.com/blog/30-super-carry-vs-9mm-ammo-face-off/ https://gununiversity.com/30-super-carry/ .... Smith & Wesson: The ORIGINAL point-and-click interface. --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52 þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL .