Subj : Re: 30 super - opinions?
To   : Gamgee
From : Moondog
Date : Sat Aug 13 2022 11:40 am

  Re: Re: 30 super - opinions?
  By: Gamgee to Moondog on Sat Aug 13 2022 08:28 am

 > -=> Moondog wrote to All <=-
 > 
 >  Mo> I think we might've grazed over it awhile back, but there is a
 >  Mo> new cartridge that came out early this year called 30 super.
 >  Mo> It's a lighter lesser diameter bullet than the 9mm, but the case
 >  Mo> is longer.  Their about the same legth, except for the case
 >  Mo> diameter is smaller.  A .308" 110 grain bullet versus a 124 grain
 >  Mo> or greater .356" diameter projectile.  Velocity is higher, which
 >  Mo> makes up for the lack of size.  In an S&W Shield+, capacity is 13
 >  Mo> rounds compared to 7 rounds of 9mm.   A slightly extended mag
 >  Mo> which offers more to hold on to provides 16 round capacity.
 >  Mo> Federal , Remington, Seepr, CCI and Hornady are all offering the
 >  Mo> round, so it's not like looking for 5.7 or 22TCM.
 > 
 > I won't be getting one any time soon.  In my personal opinion, I don't
 > want to carry anything weaker than a 9mm.  The *only* advantage that I
 > can see this cartridge providing is higher magazine capacity.  I've
 > already solved that by upgrading my S&W Shield to a Shield Plus.
 > 
 > Honestly the only way I see this being beneficial is to a .380 Auto user
 > who wants a little more punch, but doesn't want to go "all the way" to a
 > 9mm ... (which is a little strange).
 > 
 > Here a a couple of decent reviews:
 > 
 > https://gunmagwarehouse.com/blog/30-super-carry-vs-9mm-ammo-face-off/
 > 
 > https://gununiversity.com/30-super-carry/
 > 
 > 
 > ... Smith & Wesson: The ORIGINAL point-and-click interface.

I've been trying to find reloading data on it, and disocvered it has a  .312
diameter round rather than the .308 as I expected.  A couple of reloading die
manufacturers make sizing dies, but the powder charge data isn't officialy
available.  Some compare the cartridge to 30 Luger or 32 H&R, which have been
around as long as if longer than 9mm.  The factories use custom powder blends
that are not the same as cannister powders available to hand loaders, and can
squeeze more velocity under safe pressures.  I was hoping they would use .308
bullets, since I have a bunch of 110gr projectiles intended for 30 Carbine. 
I have been loading them as varmint loads in .308 Winchester.  Well, so much
 for adopting a cartridge based on existing supplies...

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