Subj : Re: New purchase
To   : Moondog
From : Weatherman
Date : Sun Jul 02 2023 01:31 am

-=> Moondog wrote to Weatherman <=-

 Mo>   Re: Re: New purchase
 Mo>   By: Weatherman to Moondog on Sat Jul 01 2023 01:42 am

 > -=> Moondog wrote to Tracker1 <=-
 >

 Mo> The FFL holder is required by the ATF to inform them if a buy
 Mo> er purchases multiple firearms within a week or two .  The ATF will
 Mo> take the address infromation then investigate whether the buyer is
 Mo> performing straw purchase.
 
 I repeat.  I have never... EVER been contacted by BATF for any reason
whatsoever, and I have purchased in excess of two fireams within a week (hell,
on the same DAY - and yes, from the same FFL) on multiple occassions.

 Mo> The agents will come to the buyer's house and want to see that they
 Mo> have the firearms in their possession (haven't sold or given them to
 Mo> anybody.)  I have spoken to people that have been contacted by the ATF
 Mo> (by mail) to inform them the FFL sent them the purchase information,
 Mo> but haven't met anyone who has been visited by them.
 
 Any BATF agent that shows up unannounced on my doorstep had better have a
warrant.  No warrant, no entry, it's as simple as that.  It's called the Fourth
Amendment to the US Constitution.  

 Mo> Not sure if luck plays into it.  It may be more dependent on how busy
 Mo> the loca l ATF agent is, or the firearms in question whether they fit a
 Mo> profile.

Doubt if luck has anything to do with it.  Multiple purchases in a specified
period of time does NOT constitute reasonable cause to assume straw purchases. 
Without reasonable cause, the BATF will be unable to obtain a search warrant. 
Without a search warrant, the BATF has no enforceable right to search, seizure
or interview. 


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