Subj : Re: Gaming (Windows) PC: build or buy? To : Digital Man From : Tracker1 Date : Mon Jul 19 2021 06:55 pm On 7/16/2021 2:17 PM, Digital Man wrote: > > An AMD integrated graphics CPU (or "APU" they're sometimes called) or > separate CPU and GPU? For example this HP system has a Ryzen APU: > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08VRS732Z > but I'm having trouble comparing the GPU performance of that system > against, say, the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060Ti. The APU in the 4700g is just below a GTX 1030 performance, so not as good as the older computer, the CPU is decent enough. A 5700g APU graphics are just above a GTX 1030 in some cases. Unfortunately GPU availability is pretty much limited to buy it or build it... the system from Amazon is way overpriced there, it should be $500-600 at Office Max, and you can bump the ram yourself for $150 or less. You might also consider Newegg's builder service, which will allow you to choose some of the parts... I missed the original mentioning the system was a Dell, I wouldn't recommend Dell currently. If you were to build yourself, would probably suggest building with the same 10700k same as the dell system or a 3700X AMD, and just bringing over the GTX 1050 as an interim graphics card and try the newegg shuffle for a better GPU near cost, ymmv though. AMD has nicer/better motherboard options at different price points than for intel, would go with a low or mid-range x570 chipset for AMD over B550. Even if you don't care about the wifi, having the bluetooth included will help with headphones if not now, in the future. -- Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.com --- þ Synchronet þ Roughneck BBS - roughneckbbs.com .