Subj : Re: NVMe versus SATA in desktops? To : Tracker1 From : poindexter FORTRAN Date : Thu Jul 13 2023 07:20 am -=> Tracker1 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=- PF> I have a 4th generation i7 desktop running Windows 10. It's got 16GB of PF> ram and a SATA SSD. I'm debating about upgrading my desktop PC, I'm PF> looking to upgrade to a newer (10th gen or higher CPU), more cores, and PF> trying to buy some extended life for my PC. Tr> You're going to have to replace your motherboard and ram as well... and Tr> even an RX 6600 is likely faster than the GPU from ~8 years ago Tr> (assuming it's that old as well).. so best to just plan on a Tr> replacement, unless you really like your case. Your PSU may be comming Tr> close to EOL as well. Upgrading = replacing the whole kit. Sorry I wasn't clearer. I'm looking for a new system. BTW, I have an Nvidia GTX 1030 in my current system. I can get 50 fps playing the only modern game I play. Tr> Real world, you won't notice the difference from SATA too much. I Tr> mostly notice when building large projects or doing things like a Tr> message scan, where you're accessing the contents of many files in a Tr> relatively short turn around... For a very large web project, HDD to Tr> SATA SSD goes from minutes to around a minute. Going from SATA SSD to Tr> Gen 4 PCIE NVME is a couple seconds. So it depends on your usage, but Tr> for playing games, web, general use you aren't likely to notice. I have 2 Proxmox servers - my old one is a Thinkpad with an i7, the new one is a Dell Optiplex i5 with a NVMe. I definitely see a difference running VMs, wasn't sure about desktop results. I'm mostly doing web, office, photoshop and games here, some transcoding of media. Tr> That said, the pricing is on par between the two, with NVME being much Tr> faster in some cases. Most current motherboards have at least 1 and as Tr> many as 3-4 NVME slots, so you might as well. Bonus, no cable clutter. Tr> Those last points (mb support, similar price, no cables) aare the main Tr> reasons I just say go nvme. After growing up with MFM and floppy drives, I can appreciate a lack of cables. :) Tr> Things to look for are DRAM cache over "SLC" cache... the former is Tr> dedicated dram, the latter is a portion of memory that is using SLC Tr> mode for faster access... The drives of the former being a bit better Tr> quality generally speaking, but again, unlikely to notice a difference Tr> in day to day usage. Tr> I'm partial to Samsung, WD Black, Solidigm and Sabrent (Rocket Line). Thanks for sharing! This is very helpful. .... Feedback recordings into an acoustic situation --- MultiMail/Win v0.52 þ Synchronet þ .: realitycheckbbs.org :: scientia potentia est :. .