Subj : For you SBBS Sysops o
To   : Gamgee
From : Accession
Date : Sun Jun 30 2024 11:37 am

On Sun, 30 Jun 2024 13:40:00 -0500, you wrote:

 G> No doubt.  I am a combat-wounded veteran of the Nvidia Wars.  ;-)

Same here, it was definitely a rough time. Then once one figured out how to remove the old driver and all of it's remnants *before* installing the new driver, things worked much better.

 G> That's cool, and I could live with that.  Perhaps some of my resistance
 G> is the lack of time/motivation to learn enough about it to be able to do
 G> that.  I'm only a few years from retiring, so maybe I'll get there then.

You'll probably be surprised at how simple it really is. But I completely understand not being super excited to break away from something you already know all too well. :)

 G> I've never been able to stand using KDE.  Not sure exactly why but I
 G> just don't like it.  Maybe it reminds me of Windows a little.  I have
 G> always used and loved K3b for burning discs though, but that's the only
 G> app I like.

I agree, it definitely reminds me of Windows, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, I guess. However, my biggest gripe is the dependencies. Even with K3b, for example.. if you want to use it and you're using Gnome, you end up installing half of KDE and most of it's libraries just for that one app. They're definitely not meant to be standalone applications to use anywhere, that's for sure.

 G> Ahhhh, yes it is Debian-based, but is NOT the same as Debian-stable.
 G> Forgot to mention - there is a version of MX called "AHS" (for advanced
 G> hardware) and that's what I'm using.  After installation and a routine
 G> update, 'uname -a' reports this:

 G> Linux rivendell 6.9.6-1-liquorix-amd64 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT liquorix
 G> 6.9-5~mx23ahs (2024-06-25) x86_64 GNU/Linux

That is the one I'm using, and while messing with it last night, it never told me I had updates available, until this morning I manually clicked "Check for Updates". Now that both versions are updated, the XFCE variant's kernel is 6.9.6-1, and the Fluxbox variant's kernel is 6.1.0-22.

 G> So... not bad.  That's probably the version you want, assuming fairly
 G> recent hardware (and I've run that version just fine on 7-8 year old
 G> hardware).

Yeah, definitely not as behind as it first seemed. Also realized that XFCE has a right click application launcher menu just like Fluxbox does. Learn something new every day. Honestly, I don't have a lot of experience with XFCE as the default look was always off-putting for me. But slowly widdling away at it to make it easier on my eyes I'm finding a lot of unexpected things (so far, all good things).

 G> Same...  I've always felt like I "should" learn/use a 'BSD, and have
 G> gotten various flavors running, but eventually said "OK, now what?".
 G> "What does this do that I can't already do on Linux?".  "Why put any
 G> more effort into this?".  And that's the end of it.

Hah. That's basically exactly how it's been going for me, too. :)

Regards,
Nick

.... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.
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