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TripleA alliance thread
By: alex Date: August 21, 2018, 10:32 am
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OP
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Re: TripleA alliance thread
By: depo Date: August 21, 2018, 10:57 am
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Hi Alex,
SudAmericana here! Thanks for accepting me in ;D
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Re: TripleA alliance thread
By: alex Date: August 21, 2018, 11:51 am
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Starlight has actually been speculating about the possibility of
allying with you since the feature was released. You have a
great network that really complements ours.
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Re: TripleA alliance thread
By: AlpineUngulate Date: August 21, 2018, 12:08 pm
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Starlight here.
I thought I'd write some general principles of organization for
the alliance:
1. Connect to each others' hubs.
We want synergy from connecting routes within the alliance. That
means if you're building routes from one of your hubs into a new
region, see if there are alliance hubs in the area and head
towards those. You're likely to get some spillover demand from
the ally, and they from you.
For some examples where this is particularly relevant: the
southern and southwestern US have many cities with high income
and moderate population. It would take too many routes and bases
to give them all directs everywhere. So we operate on a
hub-and-spokes model with a focus on Dallas-Fort Worth (DFW) and
Hartsfield-Jackson (ATL). It would've been a valid choice to use
different bases, like Phoenix, Charlotte, or Miami, but we
happen not to be structured that way, and at this point we've
invested dozens of routes and billions of dollars in our
choices.
So if you're connecting from your home country to the southern
US, you might find more demand for continuing passengers if you
go through those airports first. For another example, there are
plenty of good airports in southern Japan with direct demand,
but the most likely place to get connecting passengers is Kansai
International (KIX) because we have invested the most in that.
2. Don't direct-compete with each others' routes.
While you want to connect your hub to other allies' hubs, you
should check to make sure it isn't already done. We don't ever
need to spend more than one route on a particular route. It's a
big world out there with lots of better opportunities for
expansion. Piling too many people into the same route grinds
down profit margin.
3. Expand in relatively-contiguous blocs.
It's easier for allies to work with you and build a strategy
around you if your strategy is obvious. Don't build a new,
far-flung base in a country you don't have a good shot at
earning a reputation bonus in. Leave those to allies and just
build flights out to them. Instead focus on your areas of
advantage and build a cohesive network that's attractive for
other allies to build links to.
4. Some countries have room for more than one of us.
While direct competition isn't fun, there are some countries
valuable enough to have more than one ally in. Definitely
discuss it here and coordinate, but don't shy entirely away from
the large markets where even a 4th or 5th place trophy is
valuable.
I'm writing this especially with respect to the US, which is
just so huge and so fragmented that it's very difficult for me
to cover it all, even though I have more North American volume
than anyone in the game. Remember that if you HQ over one of my
bases, you'll still be able to join the alliance.
But even a not-quite-as-big market--like Italy--can yield us
benefits by having two alliance members earn reputation from it.
5. Expand to new territories.
There's a lot we haven't covered yet, and those areas are the
ones where a new ally could probably do the most good. Here I'm
especially thinking of Mexico, central/eastern Europe, the
Middle East, Africa, and Russia, but also really any country
that seems under-covered.
6. Talk it out here.
Talk through expansion plans here. Sometimes people have bases
they're not particularly attached to and are willing to turn
over the territory to someone else. Other times there's a place
they really want to go to. Just let people know your plans and
it'll keep our alliance organized. If it seems like an airline
has been away for a long time, and someone really wants one of
their bases, we'll try to address that. But it's early in the
alliance feature and I don't see us having a problem with that
any time soon.
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Re: TripleA alliance thread
By: AlpineUngulate Date: August 21, 2018, 12:10 pm
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And SudAmericana: if you want Rome let me know. I think the two
reasonable things to do in Italy are either (a) I hold 3rd and
you hold 2nd, as we have it now, or (b) I leave Rome, you build
a base there, and you push for 1st.
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Re: TripleA alliance thread
By: alex Date: August 21, 2018, 12:28 pm
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TBH I think 1st Italy is easily within reach for SudAmerica
without a fourth Italian base.
A minor addition to Starlight's point about the US: LAX is a
fantastic choice of HQ if you are going that route. There are
tons and tons of direct flights from it that Starlight doesn't
cover, and there is a tremendous and constantly increasing
amount of alliance passenger volume through there. I just added
SYD LAX and will be beefing up that, HND (Tokyo) LAX, and TPE
(Taipei) LAX substantially. Expect to get around 30k connecting
passenger volume from my flights alone.
As for expansion plans: a quick glance at my Rival page or the
alliance map should make my strategy obvious. I'm a simple
regional airline (my region is Asia). I'm testing the waters in
Australia and depending on how well that expansion goes will aim
for 2nd or maybe 1st (marking the third prestige market I'll
have taken from Air Canada :D). I'm thinking of a third
Australia base in Melbourne, Canberra, or Brisbane (on top of
Sydney and Perth).
I'm also about to set up a Hong Kong base since Starlight left
it but I'm not married to that.
Outside of that I really don't have much in the way of expansion
plans and am mostly just defending / optimizing my current
territory and filling out international routes.
A word of warning: India is a trap. Don't go there. It's worth
almost nothing by way of points and you'll never run a profit
there unless your airline is completely dedicated to operating
in very poor countries (low service funding, no planes larger
than an A318, etc.).
edit: oh, and there's actually room in Japan for another
airline. It may be a little tough to get to 2nd, but I think you
could make a reasonable profit off of Osaka (ITM) and Tokyo
(NRT). Fukuoka (FUK) is another possibility although Auburn is
using it heavily.
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Re: TripleA alliance thread
By: alex Date: August 21, 2018, 2:19 pm
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Uvita I just noticed we're competing on HND SHA. Let me know
when you're ready to drop a few thousand more passengers on it
and I'll cancel the route.
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Re: TripleA alliance thread
By: losgatitospeligrosos Date: August 21, 2018, 6:22 pm
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LGP runs Mexico. Advising your alliance to focus there only
courts failure.
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Re: TripleA alliance thread
By: AlpineUngulate Date: August 22, 2018, 12:20 am
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Or you could join us.
Don't you want that rep bonus and the extra flight capacity?
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Re: TripleA alliance thread
By: patson Date: August 22, 2018, 1:35 am
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[quote author=AlpineUngulate link=topic=145.msg548#msg548
date=1534915224]
Don't you want that rep bonus and the extra flight capacity?
[/quote]
Yes! So we Unisky are going to topple u guys just like 2 days
ago...watch out ;D
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