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#Post#: 16127--------------------------------------------------
Is anyone using alternative gas?
By: rayvil01 Date: February 2, 2013, 7:47 am
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I hate this ethanol fuel. It seems like I've replaced the fuel
line on everything I own.
I've gone to using the Marine Sta-bil. It's blue and costs
twice what the normal Sta-bil does. Supposedly it deals with
the ethanol. But, my goodness, the exhaust stinks to high
heaven.
The pre-mixed gas that Bailey's and others are selling has no
alcohol, but the price is sky high. So, I'm wondering if anyone
is using racing fuel like C-14 or Aviation gas as an
alternative.
Thanks.
#Post#: 16128--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is anyone using alternative gas?
By: Chainsawrepair Date: February 2, 2013, 9:24 am
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I know a guy that works at the airport and uses aviation in
everything. He get a free supply being it is the fuel drained
out that want used.
I use a 2 stroke mix that stays mixed with methanol alcohol, so
I called the Klotz tech and he stated it will stay mixed with
ethanol too. I have yet to have a problem due to ethanol. KL-100
and KL-200
#Post#: 16270--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is anyone using alternative gas?
By: rayvil01 Date: February 4, 2013, 7:48 am
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Klotz is Canadian, isn't it? Can you get that online in the
States?
I went to Stihl Ultra last year and think it helped.
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Re: Is anyone using alternative gas?
By: Chainsawrepair Date: February 4, 2013, 8:33 am
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[quote author=rayvil01 link=topic=1554.msg16270#msg16270
date=1359985717]
Klotz is Canadian, isn't it? Can you get that online in the
States?
I went to Stihl Ultra last year and think it helped.
[/quote]
I buy mine online by the case. The Klotz head tech I talked to
was in Indiana I think.
Klotz Synthetic Lubricants
7424 Freedom Way
Fort Wayne, IN 46818
800 242 0489 Order Line
260 490 0489 Tech Line
260 490 0490 Fax
sales@klotzlube.com
website
(HTM) http://www.klotzlube.com/
These are the only 2 that stay mixed with alcohol
KL200
(HTM) http://www.klotzlube.com/proddetail.asp?prod=KL-200_Quart&cat=8
KL100
(HTM) http://www.klotzlube.com/proddetail.asp?prod=KL-100_Quart&cat=8
This new one KL198 says it stays mixed with alcohol but I have
no experience with it or have I ever talked to a tech about it.
(HTM) http://www.klotzlube.com/proddetail.asp?prod=KL-198_Quart&cat=8<br
/>
(HTM) http://www.klotzlube.com/techsheet.asp?ID=153&submit2=View
#Post#: 16275--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is anyone using alternative gas?
By: rayvil01 Date: February 4, 2013, 9:23 am
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Excellent. Thanks.
#Post#: 16401--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is anyone using alternative gas?
By: rayvil01 Date: February 6, 2013, 8:40 pm
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Cut4fun,
I went and checked out the web pages you linked. Looks
interesting. I remember on a hotsaw site a few years ago there
was a guy on there who was a big Klotz proponent.
Something interesting on the product descriptions was that
they said the product were good with Methanol. That surprised
me a bit as methanol is wood-based where the gas we buy has
ethanol, a grain product. I would think alcohol is alcohol, but
I was curious why they made that distinction. I wrote to them,
but have not had a response.
#Post#: 17018--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is anyone using alternative gas?
By: John Mc Date: February 19, 2013, 8:54 am
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That is curious that they specifically mention Methanol, when
most gas has Ethanol in it.
#Post#: 17045--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is anyone using alternative gas?
By: JasonMester Date: February 19, 2013, 2:49 pm
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I use a product that is called star tron made by starbrite. It
suppose to absorb the ethanol in the fuel. I have used it for
about 2 years now. With great results. Its an additive. There
web page is www.starbrite.com or www.startron.com. I had a 5
gallon can of gas with it in there, and was still fresh after a
year. May be an option too.
#Post#: 17087--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is anyone using alternative gas?
By: John Mc Date: February 20, 2013, 12:23 pm
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I'm a pilot, and am around aviation gas (also known as 100LL)
quite a bit. I do not use it in my chainsaws. The Tetraethyl
Lead in the gas as an octane booster is NASTY stuff, and I'm not
into breathing that in from an exhaust about 2 ft from my nose.
There are projects to develop unleaded versions of AvGas, but
they are all probably several years away from commercial
availability. IT won't be cheap -- 100LL is going for around
$6/gallon in my area, and I doubt the replacement fuel will be
any cheaper.
I'm fortunate to have found a gas station in my area that
carries non-ethanol premium gas year round (it was formerly only
available in the summertime).
#Post#: 17091--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is anyone using alternative gas?
By: Chainsawrepair Date: February 20, 2013, 1:24 pm
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[quote author=rayvil01 link=topic=1554.msg16401#msg16401
date=1360204858]
Cut4fun,
I went and checked out the web pages you linked. Looks
interesting. I remember on a hotsaw site a few years ago there
was a guy on there who was a big Klotz proponent.
Something interesting on the product descriptions was that
they said the product were good with Methanol. That surprised
me a bit as methanol is wood-based where the gas we buy has
ethanol, a grain product. I would think alcohol is alcohol, but
I was curious why they made that distinction. I wrote to them,
but have not had a response.
[/quote]
Sorry I just seen this.
Because Klotz KL-200 (marketed toward racers) is what the
racers use to mix their alky nitro race fuels with. Side
benefit is it stays mixed with ethanol too. ;)
I called them and got my info from their head tech first hand.
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