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       Partner Pioneer 5000 plus 
       By: Miller-Thinner2 Date: November 11, 2014, 4:08 pm
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       Where can I find specs on a 5000 plus? Are they good saws?
       comparable to what saws. I can pick one up pretty cheap in
       excellent shape.
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       Re: Pioneer 5000 plus 
       By: fossil Date: November 11, 2014, 4:38 pm
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       One of the fastest cutting 50cc saws ever built.
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       Re: Pioneer 5000 plus 
       By: farmboy Date: November 11, 2014, 9:27 pm
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       Get it before somebody else does.  Agree w/fossil 100%.
       Shep
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       Re: Pioneer 5000 plus 
       By: fordfairlane78 Date: November 13, 2014, 4:29 am
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       It's a pioneer/partner 5000plus. It is the same as a partner
       5000. This was one of partners contributions to the p/p
       collaboration by electrolux right before they eliminated both
       brands so it would be the latest version of that saw platform
       produced....I think.....electrolux may have released a pp325?
       later + I believe the jred 490? as well but I don't know when
       the production on these ended. Late 80's? Please anybody feel
       free to correct me...
       #Post#: 49207--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pioneer 5000 plus 
       By: Chainsawrepair Date: November 13, 2014, 11:33 am
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       Was my fav 49cc saw when I got into 3cubes. Cuts with NE 346,
       5100 etc new stuff.
       Lot of info here on them just search partner 5000.
       I had tons of them and still hard copy service manual etc.
       IMO $200 and down. $200 being like new to used abused $50.
       $300 if like new in box saw.  Had 490 heated handle like that.
       #Post#: 49208--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pioneer 5000 plus 
       By: Chainsawrepair Date: November 13, 2014, 11:35 am
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       490 = 5000 plus   closed port. 44mm had alot
       There was a early 5000 that was open port. Ran real good too.
       44mm
       500 open port 44mm had alot
       formula 500 open port 45mm   had 1 and sold to collector
       590  45mm  had couple
       PP325 = Partner 5500  46mm  had 2 went to collectors
       490 heat handle had 1 sold to collector
       5000 plus heated handle sold
       Pics are all here.
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       Re: Partner Pioneer 5000 plus 
       By: Chainsawrepair Date: November 13, 2014, 11:45 am
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       There has been a nice one FS local 15mins away for $150. Little
       much for me as I am out of them now. But great buy for someone
       needing a 3ci saw IMO.
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       Re: Partner Pioneer 5000 plus 
       By: SawTroll Date: November 14, 2014, 8:48 am
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       [quote author=Cut4fun_ link=topic=4296.msg49210#msg49210
       date=1415900711]
       There has been a nice one FS local 15mins away for $150. Little
       much for me as I am out of them now. But great buy for someone
       needing a 3ci saw IMO.
       [/quote]
       As a "work" saw, I suspect the AV of those saws aren't qute up
       to todays standards, but I don't really know?
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       Re: Partner Pioneer 5000 plus 
       By: Gypo Logger Date: December 8, 2014, 12:38 am
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       Your right, the vibe mount where the fore handle joins the left
       side of the saw is a week point.
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