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P61
By: Chainsawrepair Date: March 5, 2019, 7:45 am
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Pioneer P61 I didnt get Sun. Was $200 or BO. Son was in town
so I didnt feel the need to make a 3hr round trip. = Family
first.
Said runner.
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Re: P61
By: HolmenTree Date: March 5, 2019, 8:02 am
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Pioneer made the best horizontal engine saws. They never did
sell a verticle, but did make a verticle P35 prototype in 1976
to compete with the new European saws coming to North America at
that time....before owner OMC jumped ship.
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Re: P61
By: fossil Date: March 5, 2019, 11:01 am
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Pioneer made and sold vertical cylinder saws from 1946 to around
1971. I don't think they made a horizontal cylinder saw until
the mid '60's.
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Re: P61
By: HolmenTree Date: March 5, 2019, 11:46 am
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[quote author=fossil link=topic=7207.msg84627#msg84627
date=1551805310]
Pioneer made and sold vertical cylinder saws from 1946 to around
1971. I don't think they made a horizontal cylinder saw until
the mid '60's.
[/quote]
Fossil, you are correct they did under their IEL patent designs
going way back to 1946 with the IEL Beaver the world's first 1
man chainsaw. But the company was IEL , Pioneer was their saw's
model name.
OMC bought out IEL in 1956 then changed the company name to
Pioneer in 1958 . They kept that IEL verticle design with the HC
JC Ra etc. right up to 1964 with the 600 650 850 etc.
Then in 1965 they left the IEL patent design and went with
their own horizontal cylinder to copy the 1964 Homelite XL.
Great company back in the day even into the 1980s joined up with
Poulan, Partner under the Electrolux roof.
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Re: P61
By: Chainsawrepair Date: March 5, 2019, 11:57 am
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Sure like to seen what all these good chainsaw company's would
have become if not bought out. Maybe they would have just
folded on their own, who knows :'(
Partner Pioneer Jonsereds Poulan Zenoah aka old Redmax here
Mcculloch
Just trying to remember the chainsaw companies bought up by them
over the years. Any others that was bought for chainsaws?
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Re: P61
By: HolmenTree Date: March 5, 2019, 5:36 pm
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[quote author=Cut4fun . link=topic=7207.msg84629#msg84629
date=1551808629]
Sure like to seen what all these good chainsaw company's would
have become if not bought out. Maybe they would have just
folded on their own, who knows :'(
Partner Pioneer Jonsereds Poulan Zenoah aka old Redmax here
Mcculloch
Just trying to remember the chainsaw companies bought up by them
over the years. Any others that was bought for chainsaws?
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Most of the North American manufactured saws were started up by
either 1 man or a small group of people and most of them sold
out by the late 1950s except for one Robert McCulloch . He was
building small engines in the 1930s and by the late 1960s he
built a small resort city in Arizona and moved a London Bridge
from England to Arizona brick by brick in the early 1970's. But
he shortly after lost alot of money trying to get into the
outboard motor industry anf ended up selling he's company to
Black and Decker in 1973. By 1977 he was dead in his 60's.
Claude Poulan did well by the mid 1950s he had a dozen saws on
the market and then went public and sold shares on the stock
market. Metal fabricator Charles Beaird bought all the stock of
Poulan in 1959. The new Beaird -Poulan doubled in size and
enjoyed 2 more decades of successful saw models, selling out in
'73 and merged as poulan/Weedeater growing considerably larger
before being bought by Electrolux in '78. Then going on into the
1980's getting bigger with another full line of professional
saws.
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Re: P61
By: fossil Date: March 12, 2019, 10:35 am
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They also bought Roper and Jenn Feng who owned the McCulloch
name and I believe they also bought Frontier Chainsaws.
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Re: P61
By: HolmenTree Date: March 12, 2019, 2:06 pm
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[quote author=fossil link=topic=7207.msg84662#msg84662
date=1552404910]
They also bought Roper and Jenn Feng who owned the McCulloch
name and I believe they also bought Frontier Chainsaws.
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Not sure about Roper. But Black and Decker sold McCulloch to a
group of the company's employees, who were then forced to sell
it to Shop Vac Corp.
By 1998 the company was closed by the banks and the rights to
use the name in the US were auctioned to the Taiwanese Jenn Feng
Co.
Electrolux picked up the rights to use the McCulloch name
outside the US.
Makes sense for vacuum cleaner company (Electrolux) to buy out
Shop Vac.
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