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KLR 650- Eagle Mike free performance upgrade
By: TL*5 Date: March 5, 2013, 9:40 pm
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I seen this post on FB. If you ride a KLR you have probably
heard of Eagle Mike. He is "the guy" when it comes to KLR's this
is interesting.
Post from Eagle Mike.
I had the chance to spend some time with a couple of experienced
performance people and a dyno a few weeks ago.
We ran a 2009 (this will be the test mule for many projects) on
the dyno. Stock except for Uni filter and KLX jet kit. It's also
an oil user. We got our baseline numbers. Without doing anything
else to the bike (or even taking it off the dyno) we advanced
the exhaust cam 1 tooth. This is 7.5 cam timing degrees, or 3.75
crankshaft degrees. We picked up 7 to 10 percent torque and
horsepower from just above 2500 rpm to 6500 rpm. No loss of
power anywhere. That's all we did. We'll do more fine tuning
with adjustable cam sprockets to see if there is more to be had
with finer/different settings. We did 3 pulls in each
configuration, stock and altered timing.
We're going to call this the "MC mod" after the initials of a
couple of people involved. (Mike Coe and myself)
This has been tested but not dyno'd on a couple of other bikes.
Much improved rideability, better throttle response. Not
drawbacks that we could see. MPG seems unaffected.
If you can adjust your own valves, you can do this modification.
If anything goes wrong, though - you are responsible...... The
piston doesn't hit the valves or anything like that. Be sure
your cam chain adjuster is working properly, etc.
Next step is dyno with custom camshafts. We'll also be running
the header mounted aa/f, both on the street and dyno. Many
people run the sniffer up the tailpipe on the dyno. IMO it's
important to get standard riding conditions data as well. That's
how the baseline recommendations for the KLX jet kit came about.
(I didn't just guess )
If you haven't seen it elsewhere, we are also working on other
upgrades, including a 719 kit with stock stroke, 762 kit with
stroker, and FI. The FI is still in test. The first set of rods
for the stroker are on the way. No pricing on the stroker yet.
Plan is FI to be $595 once the system is fully tested and
mature. This might change a little, but people ask, so that is
the plan.
Free performance, what could be better?
Reply by Jerry McLean on February 5, 2013 at 11:25pm
Hi Tim, I have a 2012 KLR650 and have been following that
thread. I was thinking with this mod and the accompanying
changes to the air box and carb tuning together with a Leo Vince
X3 exhaust that I should be in the neighborhood of 39
horsepower. That should take the KLR a step up in the fun
factor. But back down to earth, I still need some good body
armor and a DS helmet. Of course even without the pricy exhaust
the change in power from the mod should be large enough to be
worth the effort.
Hi Tim, I have a 2012 KLR650 and have been following that
thread. I was thinking with this mod and the accompanying
changes to the air box and carb tuning together with a Leo Vince
X3 exhaust that I should be in the neighborhood of 39
horsepower. That should take the KLR a step up in the fun
factor. But back down to earth, I still need some good body
armor and a DS helmet. Of course even without the pricy exhaust
the change in power from the mod should be large enough to be
worth the effort. Cancel
Reply by Jerry McLean on February 6, 2013 at 12:11am
The thread I was referring to was on KLR650.NET. It was in the
forums under the the threads "Maintenance, Mods and Tech". There
are two threads, Free Performance and the other is How to: MC
Mod.
The thread I was referring to was on KLR650.NET. It was in the
forums under the the threads "Maintenance, Mods and Tech". There
are two threads, Free Performance and the other is How to: MC
Mod. Cancel
Reply by Kevin Rooney on February 6, 2013 at 8:47am
wonder if this works on the pre 08 bikes?
not that it really matters since mine will be finding a new home
in the next few days.......
<p>wonder if this works on the pre 08 bikes?<br/>
not that it really matters since mine will be finding a new home
in the next few days.......</p> Cancel
Reply by Tim Lightle on February 6, 2013 at 9:05am Delete Yeah,
I wonder about this on the pre 08's too. I have done several
mods to my bike , airbox, exhaust, carb shim/rejet, but I have
came to realize the KLR is what it is and although I will always
take a little more power, it has yet to fail me in any way yet.
<p>Yeah, I wonder about this on the pre 08's too. I have done
several mods to my bike , airbox, exhaust, carb shim/rejet, but
I have came to realize the KLR is what it is and although I will
always take a little more power, it has yet to fail me in any
way yet.</p> Cancel
Reply by Kevin Rooney on February 6, 2013 at 9:16am
I agree, I love the KLR and it is a great dependable bike.....
but a budget bike. Many bikes will do all the same things the
KLR does and do it better. If a person wants more power or
better handling they are better off to just get a different
bike. That being said..... with ease of maintence, parts
availability, and dependability all at a low price.... a KLR
just cannot be beat.
<p>I agree, I love the KLR and it is a great dependable
bike..... but a budget bike. Many bikes will do all the same
things the KLR does and do it better. If a person wants more
power or better handling they are better off to just get a
different bike. That being said..... with ease of maintence,
parts availability, and dependability all at a low price.... a
KLR just cannot be beat.</p> Cancel
Reply by Jerry McLean on February 6, 2013 at 9:49am Delete I
suppose ideally one could have a powerful adv bike and a lighter
DS bike. What I did was watch Ebay and bought my KLR for $4800
with 55 miles on it right before Thanksgiving. I installed a
rack on my Sprinter van rv and can take it camping with me. I
agree a KLR is not for everyone, but it is hard to beat the
price, if you can avoid the dreaded farklitus disease. (I never
took Latin so I don't know if the spelling is correct.)
I suppose ideally one could have a powerful adv bike and a
lighter DS bike. What I did was watch Ebay and bought my KLR for
$4800 with 55 miles on it right before Thanksgiving. I installed
a rack on my Sprinter van rv and can take it camping with me. I
agree a KLR is not for everyone, but it is hard to beat the
price, if you can avoid the dreaded farklitus disease. (I never
took Latin so I don't know if the spelling is correct.) Cancel
Reply by Tim Lightle on February 6, 2013 at 10:02am Delete
Farkles will get you. Once you do all the cheaper ones the good
ones are all $$$. But I have had my KLR for 5 or 6 years now and
I just try to accomplish a couple decent upgrades a year. But
riding gear (which I personall suggest) is pricey too.
I seen a sticker on a BMW GS the other day that said " If loud
pipes save lives, imagine what proper training and safety
equipment can do" Now that's good stuff.
<p>Farkles will get you. Once you do all the cheaper ones the
good ones are all $$$. But I have had my KLR for 5 or 6 years
now and I just try to accomplish a couple decent upgrades a
year. But riding gear (which I personall suggest) is pricey too.
<br/>
I seen a sticker on a BMW GS the other day that said " If loud
pipes save lives, imagine what proper training and safety
equipment can do" Now that's good stuff.</p> Cancel
►Reply by Kevin Rooney on February 6, 2013 at 2:00pm
Delete I love my KLR. Fully set up for adventure I had right
around 2,500 in the bike. The bike had 15k miles on it when I
got it a few years ago. It now has 40k plus on it. Of course
that was soft bags, stock rear shock, just springs up front, and
stock motor. If I did much more than that I could have gotten a
second bike or better bike for what it would cost for the
upgraded parts. I know of bikes out there that have the 680 or
705 kit, aftermarket rear shock, USD fork conversion, and more
major money upgrades. While the mods are awesome and there is
nothing wrong with doing them. That is just not for me, I would
rather put the money toward another bike or more miles on the
road/trail. They had more money in those few upgrades that I did
in my whole bike.
While me KLR is for sale, If I ever get another smaller dual
sport bike I think I will go back to a KLR. They just cant be
beat even in stock form for dirt road cruising and mild ATV
trails. Thankfully my wife has a KLR that I may sneak a ride on
from time to time.
<p>I love my KLR. Fully set up for adventure I had right around
2,500 in the bike. The bike had 15k miles on it when I got it a
few years ago. It now has 40k plus on it. Of course that was
soft bags, stock rear shock, just springs up front, and stock
motor. If I did much more than that I could have gotten a second
bike or better bike for what it would cost for the upgraded
parts. I know of bikes out there that have the 680 or 705 kit,
aftermarket rear shock, USD fork conversion, and more major
money upgrades. While the mods are awesome and there is nothing
wrong with doing them. That is just not for me, I would rather
put the money toward another bike or more miles on the
road/trail. They had more money in those few upgrades that I did
in my whole bike.</p>
<p>While me KLR is for sale, If I ever get another smaller dual
sport bike I think I will go back to a KLR. They just cant be
beat even in stock form for dirt road cruising and mild ATV
trails. Thankfully my wife has a KLR that I may sneak a ride on
from time to time.</p> Cancel
Reply by Aaron Ryssemus on February 13, 2013 at 6:05pm Delete
This is blowing my mind. I've done the 685 kit to my '09 klr but
I still feel like the bike is under powered.
So the exhaust cam should be turned toward the front of the
bike?
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