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       #Post#: 796--------------------------------------------------
       Scout vs Penn Flyer O Gauge for my 5 year old
       By: IEtech71 Date: November 26, 2014, 11:36 pm
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       I want to get my 5 year old a "starter set" for Christmas. Is
       there any operational or mechanial difference between the Scout
       and Penn Flyer?  Does the Penn flyer have any features that make
       it cost a little more???  I still have my Lionel Alleghany set
       from the 70's and she loves it...Time to get her own.  Are there
       any online train stores that will have black Friday or cyber
       Monday sales??? Thanks for the time, I'm sure you guys get tired
       of the which set should I get kid questions.
       #Post#: 797--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Scout vs Penn Flyer O Gauge for my 5 year old
       By: TrainLarry Date: November 27, 2014, 10:33 am
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       Welcome to the board!
       The Penn Flyer set has a couple more sections of track, and some
       trackside acessories to enhance the basic layout. Most online
       stores should be offering some special deals for the official
       start of the season. Nice to see that you are getting your
       daughter started early in our hobby with her own trains.
       Larry
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       Re: Scout vs Penn Flyer O Gauge for my 5 year old
       By: IEtech71 Date: November 27, 2014, 11:18 pm
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       Thanks Larry,
       I noticed looking at the Penn Flyer it says Remote... So
       guessing that's an actual Remote VS a wired transformer like I
       am used to.  So would the train be ale to run on my old
       Traditional Track??? And Would my old train be able to run on
       her Fast Track??? Thanks Again!!!!!
       #Post#: 800--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Scout vs Penn Flyer O Gauge for my 5 year old
       By: TrainLarry Date: November 28, 2014, 1:16 am
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       It seems that both the Scout and Penn Flyer sets come in both
       conventional and remote versions, with the Penn Flyer having no
       less than 8 different sets and configurations to chose from!
       Which sets (with product numbers) are you comparing?
       You can run new and old trains on new and old track; everything
       is compatible.
       To run your old trains on the newer FasTrack, you would need to
       disconnect the newer power pack from the track and connect your
       older transformer in its' place.
       The newer LionChief trains can be run on the older or newer
       track with your older transformer set to maximum voltage.
       Larry
       #Post#: 802--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Scout vs Penn Flyer O Gauge for my 5 year old
       By: IEtech71 Date: November 28, 2014, 1:59 am
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       AGAIN THANK YOU!  So both of these are from Amazon The
       Pennsylvania remote is item number 630233 for $192.99 and The
       Scout transformer set is item #630127 for $164.22.  Yes now I
       see they come in both but those two are the two I'm looking at.
       We went to a train show here in Milwaukee not long ago and We
       saw the remote ones I guess just being used to my transformer
       from the 70's I didn't like it.  But now I am thinking the
       remote might be a nice thing or my daughter who is only 5. Just
       not sure which route to go. So new train safe with my
       transformer but my train must run on the older transformer?
       Thank You AGAIN!
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       Re: Scout vs Penn Flyer O Gauge for my 5 year old
       By: TrainLarry Date: November 28, 2014, 2:28 am
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       Glad to help you.
       I'm sure your daughter is familiar with remote controls at home,
       so she will be at home with a remote control train set.
       The new power pack for the LionChief set has no variable voltage
       control like the older transformers do. They have a fixed 18
       volt DC output which is all the LionChief sets need. The hand
       unit controls the speed with electronics in the locomotive.
       The LionChief sets will also work with conventional AC
       transformers, but you set them to maximum voltage and again,
       control the speed with the remote, not the throttle handle like
       conventional locomotives.
       The power packs for the LionChief sets have a DC voltage output,
       but have no throttle handle to regulate the voltage for speed
       control. In addition, any trains with whistle or horn sounds
       would sound continuously with a steady DC voltage on the track,
       as it is a DC voltage that triggers the sounds on conventional
       locomotives run on AC voltage. Therefore, the newer LionChief
       power packs would not be suitable at all to operate conventional
       trains.
       Larry
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