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       #Post#: 1711--------------------------------------------------
       Lionchief with transformer
       By: charon Date: November 27, 2017, 6:11 am
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       Hi, I would like to run my Lionchief set with a Lionel CW-80
       transformer instead of the supplied  wall pack. If I hook the
       wires from the terminal track to the CW-80 Track power outlets
       what do I set the speed control to?  Do I just leave it in the
       off position or does it have to be turned up?
       Thank you,
       Chuck
       #Post#: 1712--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lionchief with transformer
       By: TrainLarry Date: November 27, 2017, 7:00 am
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       Set the transformer to 18 volts.
       See here, page 5
 (HTM) https://www.lionelsupport.com/media/servicedocuments/6609730233250PAFlyerRC.pdf
 (HTM) https://www.lionelsupport.com/media/servicedocuments/6609730233250PAFlyerRC.pdf
       Larry
       #Post#: 1713--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lionchief with transformer
       By: charon Date: November 27, 2017, 10:19 am
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       Thank you, Larry,
       I obviously skipped over that part when I read my manual.  I was
       too anxious to get the train set up.
       Chuck
       #Post#: 1714--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lionchief with transformer
       By: TrainLarry Date: November 27, 2017, 11:50 am
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       You're welcome.
       Enjoy your trains.
       Larry
       #Post#: 1728--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lionchief with transformer
       By: Chiefmcfuz Date: November 29, 2017, 6:36 pm
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       You can set the transformer lower than 18 it will limit the top
       speed of the locomotive and help keep the train on the track
       when little users are using it.
       #Post#: 1732--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lionchief with transformer
       By: charon Date: November 30, 2017, 9:10 am
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       Chief,
       Thank you very much, that question was also on my mind.
       Chuck
       #Post#: 1741--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lionchief with transformer
       By: charon Date: December 2, 2017, 7:20 am
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       Hello, Received CW-80 transformer from Trainworld and it's
       working fine. However, it came with a 2 foot long piece of dual
       wire with spade connections on one end, but no instructions,
       users manual or warranty card.  Is this normal?  Tried to post a
       pic of my layout but it didn't work.
       Thanks, again, for help getting it going.
       Chuck
       #Post#: 2408--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lionchief with transformer
       By: trainliker Date: May 22, 2020, 8:57 pm
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       Regarding lowering AC voltage using a transformer:  Attached is
       a chart of maximum speeds (in scale miles per hour) for the
       Diesel from a 6-84719 Santa Fe Super Chief set and an 0-8-0
       Steam Engine from a 6-84725 Southern Pacific Rising Sun set.
       They are somewhat similar behavior from 14 VAC to 18 VAC with
       perhaps 16 VAC being the "sweet spot" for a nice top speed of 60
       mph.
       Also, I did current draw tests under different conditions for
       the two engines.  Running at a moderate speed, the Diesel was
       300 mA and the Steam engine 150 mA.  Stalled at a moderate speed
       setting the Diesel was 700 mA and the Steam engine 450 mA.
       Stalled at the maximum speed setting the Diesel was 1500 mA and
       the Steam engine 1620 mA.  Since the 36 watt "Wallpack" that
       comes with each set is 2 amps, one can easily handle both trains
       unless both were stalled at maximum speed settings.
       If you want to use the LionChief 36 watt Wallpack (that comes
       with each set) and drop its voltage, there is a way.  The
       Wallpack is DC and a cheap and easy way to reduce its output
       voltage is to wire a string of diodes in series.  Each diode
       will drop about 0.6 volts (and dissipate 1.2 watts if the supply
       were delivering its full 2 amps - typically much less).  Just
       use as many diodes in series as you need to drop the maximum
       speed to something less terrifying than the stock maximum speed.
       And use diodes with at least a 3 amp rating.
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