(DIR) Return Create A Forum - Home --------------------------------------------------------- Lionel Trains (HTM) https://lioneltrains.createaforum.com --------------------------------------------------------- ***************************************************** (DIR) Return to: Lionel Maintenance & Repair ***************************************************** #Post#: 1791-------------------------------------------------- 2035 issue By: doublefan Date: December 13, 2017, 4:13 pm --------------------------------------------------------- A very nice running early 675. Baldwin rims, no magnatraction. Runs great around the track with a light load. Put 5 or 6 cars behind her and when she hits a switch goes into neutral, same for reverse. Up the speed and you can make it. Any thoughts? #Post#: 1792-------------------------------------------------- Re: 2035 issue By: 70gtvert Date: December 13, 2017, 4:43 pm --------------------------------------------------------- Are both rollers making contact at all times? Perhaps at the switch they are both for a short period off contact that is only manifesting itself as an issue at slower speeds. If your lucky, that will be your problem. My issue is with my Fast Track track that allows the unhooking and such. On my vintage engines I get the same problem you have, engine goes over it and it switches the e unit to neutral and I know it is making contact. So yours could be too. Newer engines from the late 70's don't have that issue. So there could be some kind of issue with the e units thinking they are having the voltage shut off when they are not on these older units. Don't understand how it can happen but you and I seem to have a similar problem. #Post#: 1794-------------------------------------------------- Re: 2035 issue By: TrainLarry Date: December 13, 2017, 6:27 pm --------------------------------------------------------- The 'E' unit needs to be locked in forward and your problem will go away. It is natural for the 'E'-unit to cycle on an interruption of power; even a slight interruption. Larry #Post#: 1797-------------------------------------------------- Re: 2035 issue By: 70gtvert Date: December 14, 2017, 11:27 am --------------------------------------------------------- Larry, locking the e-unit is not a "fix" for this problem as the e-unit was/is a design function for these trains. If there was an "interruption of power" it would not elect what vintage the engine was to interrupt yet we both have this issue with the vintage engines, not, in my case, with the more modern engines even thought they have the same pickups as the older version. Yes, I bandage the problem by doing what you suggest but again, it is a bandage that does not allow use of the full features the engine offers. I've had this happen when using my whistle at times too on these older engines. It almost seems like something happens to the current at some of these track junctions or use of electrical functions which fakes the early (or perhaps more worn) e unit into thinking there was a power interruption. #Post#: 1798-------------------------------------------------- Re: 2035 issue By: TrainLarry Date: December 14, 2017, 3:32 pm --------------------------------------------------------- 'E'-units will not cycle by themselves. There has to be an interruption of power. When traversing the switches slowly, there is a slight interruption of power to cycle the 'E'-unit. Poor connections between track sections will also cause a loss of power, cycling the loco also. The slow train speed will cause the loco to cycle, whereas faster speeds get the loco across the problem sections faster, with no cycling of the 'E'-unit. The newer electronic reverse units may need a slightly longer power interruption before they cycle; hence the run without issue on the same track. Larry #Post#: 1799-------------------------------------------------- Re: 2035 issue By: 70gtvert Date: December 14, 2017, 4:15 pm --------------------------------------------------------- That still does not answer why, at times, when I use my whistle function, the e unit will cycle too. There is no specific piece of track it happens on, it just happens here or there randomly. Any idea what causes the e unit to cycle then? Yes, the whistle does function when this happens. #Post#: 1800-------------------------------------------------- Re: 2035 issue By: TrainLarry Date: December 14, 2017, 7:04 pm --------------------------------------------------------- On the older transformers, when you press the whistle button, there is a momentary loss of power as the contacts physically break and then make electrical contact in a different configuration. It is this momentary loss of power that causes the 'E'-unit to cycle. Pressing the whistle button slowly make cycle the 'E'-unit; pressing it faster may not cycle it, but the whistle may not blow. Larry *****************************************************