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       #Post#: 2444--------------------------------------------------
       Sound stopped working on Lionchief Hudson
       By: pjdog350 Date: July 6, 2020, 5:44 pm
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       I normally run my trains early in the morning as in Florida it
       gets hot in the garage. My new home has a three car garage and I
       use the third bay for a O gauge train layout. I look after my
       wife who has had a bad stroke and she's much better off under my
       care rather than a nursing home. Normally at 6:30 AM I have a
       hot cup of coffee and both main lines running trains. I prefer
       The Lionchief Mikado & the Hudson. I will watch them and service
       what ever needs attention at that time. I after 35 minutes I
       noticed the sound had changed. Only one engine was making sound.
       Then found the New Hudson was running along fine but no sound.
       Nuts!! I'm having a bad run of luck lately! After checking
       things out I found that a black wire near the engines draw bar
       but not attached to anything. Looked the Mikado over and it has
       four wires. Two black and two red. The Hudson also has the same
       thing only one wire was not attached! Also the black shrink wrap
       was not tight which I'm sure lead to the wire failure. I've also
       seen where the sound comes from the tender so I assume that's
       what the problem is.
       Looks like the Chinese quality control got me again. Called
       Lionel for a warranty repair. Was on hold for 20 minutes
       listening to an irritating tune when a voice came on and said
       the mail box was full for this person and hung up on me. I got a
       little hot!! Something else came to mind was that when the
       Hudson got to a certain curve on my layout sometimes the sound
       would drop out but come right back. I watched for this before
       but could not always hear it. But now I think I under stand what
       was happening. The wire was broken but most the time was
       touching the contact when straight or turning right. So I had
       sound but when she got to the left turn it would cut out!
       I looked at Lionel's web site and found a parts diagram for the
       Hudson and found the wiring harness I need But it's not
       available?
       I'm not a happy camper today!
       Jack
       #Post#: 2445--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sound stopped working on Lionchief Hudson
       By: pjdog350 Date: July 8, 2020, 2:55 pm
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       I'm really surprised no one posted anything on this thread?
       But I did find the problem with my new Hudson. It appears that
       the manufacture (China) does a poor job putting the shrink wrap
       on the stream engines draw bar. When the sound stopped I looked
       up what supported the sound. Then looked the engine over. I even
       removed the engines casting. That's when I saw a black wire that
       was under the back end of the engine near the draw bar. I'm a
       wizard with the soldering iron and sense we are talking about
       one wire how could I go wrong. I removed the lose shrink wrap
       and to my surprise there where three wires lose? Wonder what
       wire goes where. Looked at the drawing on the Lionel home page
       and saw that the replacement part is unavailable? Only $ 6.50
       but not available! Could not get anyone on Lionel's support
       line. Thought I'd try the next day.
       I'm all ways a mess when one of my toys is broken.  I could not
       stop think about the problem all night. About 2 AM I got up and
       removed the casting from the tender. Then the light bulb came
       on. The tender has both orange wires soldered to the outside on
       the tenders draw bar. Then the two black wires are soldered on
       the two inside on the draw bar. The orange wires go to the
       speaker and the black wires go to the coupler on the tender. One
       orange wire was still attached on the engines draw bar. So I
       soldered the orange lose wire on the outside and two black wires
       on the inside of the engines draw bar. There are only four
       places to solder the wires. I placed some electrical  on top of
       the engines draw bar so it would not short out on the engines
       frame. Went to the garage for the test. The sound works and the
       coupler works. I went back in the house to apply some shrink
       wrap so I would not have another failure. I'm so proud of me.
       I have my new LionChief Plus Hudson back in order again and
       ready for another early morning run?
       jack
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