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       Decline of Religion in America
       By: Kerry Date: June 17, 2015, 8:18 pm
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       Americans' confidence in religion continues to slide according
       to polls.   From USA Today
 (HTM) http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/17/americans-confidence-religion-poll/28872253/:
       Americans have less confidence in organized religion today than
       ever measured before — a sign that the church could be "losing
       its footing as a pillar of moral leadership in the nation's
       culture," a new Gallup survey finds.
       "In the '80s the church and organized religion were the No.
       1″ in Gallup's annual look at confidence in institutions,
       said Lydia Saad, author of the report released Wednesday.
       Note that -- the '80's when Reagan was President.  That was the
       beginning of the end if you ask me.  We started seeing more
       ministers  getting involved in politics.   Oh, it worked to get
       Reagan elected.  The politicians have benefited; but the clergy
       have lost respect by acting more like politicians than religious
       leaders.   As a Christian, I agree with Paul when he says the
       power of the state is to suppress evil -- to strike terror in
       the hearts of people who think about doing evil.   I think the
       clergy should not concern with what to do with criminals or the
       politics of criminalizing evil.   I think they should appeal to
       us by appealing to our best motives, should believe people want
       to be good and then encourage our better sides by teaching how
       to be good.  I am so tired of ministers raving about this and
       that as threats to society and telling us we need to take their
       political position -- what are they ministers for, why aren't
       they politicians if they think you have to be a politician to
       get people to act in a  Christian manner.
       Can we pass laws that compel us to love each other?    You know
       we can't.   The true power of religion is revealed when we
       embrace it wanting to become better people ready to love our
       neighbor more.   Religion demeans itself, I think, when it
       appeals to the government to do its bidding.
       Scandals have an impact and so do the personalities in the news.
       During scandals involving prominent televangelists in the late
       '80s, Protestant confidence in organized religion slid from a
       high of 73% in 1985 to 51% in 1989. Confidence moved briefly
       back upward before the downturn in recent years.
       Similarly, Catholic confidence reached nearly its lowest ebb
       (41%) during the peak of the Catholic sex abuse scandal in 2002.
       Catholic views may have recovered 10 percentage points in part
       because of the "Francis factor."
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       Re: Decline of Religion in America
       By: HOLLAND Date: June 21, 2015, 9:45 pm
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       I tend to agree with what you're saying, Kerry.  It is also a
       sociological fact that every political and cultural movement
       creates its own nemesis in a political and cultural
       counter-reaction.  The skepticism in respect to religious faith,
       I think, has less to do with the faith in Christ itself but
       rather the political and cultural uses it has been put to.
       People tend to be politically conservative, especially as they
       get older, but they are rarely reactionary as is represented by
       much of the politics involving American religion right now.  As
       the political right decays, it will, I think, decay much as the
       New Left did in the 1960s.  We'll see the same shoddy, squalid
       end.
       Peace be with you!
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