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#Post#: 291--------------------------------------------------
Feeding proper feed
By: captjohn Date: February 7, 2018, 6:45 pm
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This is an image from the APA (American Poultry Association)
Facebook page and used with educational permission. It shows
the difference in feeding corn/scratch only type feeds versus
proper nutritional feeds. Quite a difference. Several poultry
show judges added that they see this often in 4H settings as
well as from old time farmers. Please feed your birds properly.
#Post#: 293--------------------------------------------------
Re: Feeding proper feed
By: Angela Fore Date: February 7, 2018, 6:56 pm
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[quote author=John Ellis link=topic=182.msg291#msg291
date=1518050756]
This is an image from the APA (American Poultry Association)
Facebook page and used with educational permission. It shows
the difference in feeding corn/scratch only type feeds versus
proper nutritional feeds. Quite a difference. Several poultry
show judges added that they see this often in 4H settings.
Please feed your birds properly.
[/quote]
Thanks for sharing this pic John. Something I learned at
Chicken Boot Camp from Dr. Bob Hess is that penned adult
chickens may do fine with 16% layer feed but if your chickens
free range they need to be eating a 20-22% feed because of their
activity levels.
#Post#: 297--------------------------------------------------
Re: Feeding proper feed
By: Travis Rayner Date: February 8, 2018, 12:16 am
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[quote author=Angela Fore link=topic=182.msg293#msg293
date=1518051390]
[quote author=John Ellis link=topic=182.msg291#msg291
date=1518050756]
This is an image from the APA (American Poultry Association)
Facebook page and used with educational permission. It shows
the difference in feeding corn/scratch only type feeds versus
proper nutritional feeds. Quite a difference. Several poultry
show judges added that they see this often in 4H settings.
Please feed your birds properly.
[/quote]
Thanks for sharing this pic John. Something I learned at
Chicken Boot Camp from Dr. Bob Hess is that penned adult
chickens may do fine with 16% layer feed but if your chickens
free range they need to be eating a 20-22% feed because of their
activity levels.
[/quote]That is interesting...never really considered that!
#Post#: 723--------------------------------------------------
Re: Feeding proper feed
By: Susan Austin Coulange Date: March 28, 2018, 7:02 pm
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I have a question for EVERYONE! Since I will hopefully have
chicks soon, I'm contemplating the correct food for new chicks.
I know there is a "medicated" and "non-medicated" chick grower
feed. I am an organic gardener and want my chickens to be
organic but also am concerned about chick health issues. I'm
sure it's personal preference, but what do you say? Also, I
have half a bag of non-medicated chick grower feed that I got
with my hens....but that was last summer. Is it still good? I
read somewhere that feed loses its nutritional value over time.
I have stored it all this time in dry conditions but definitely
don't want to use it if it is not safe. I guess I could always
feed it to my night crawlers.
Thanks for any insight
Susan
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Re: Feeding proper feed
By: Susan Austin Coulange Date: March 28, 2018, 7:54 pm
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[quote author=Angela Fore link=topic=182.msg724#msg724
date=1522283355]
[quote author=Susan Austin Coulange link=topic=182.msg723#msg723
date=1522281771]
I have a question for EVERYONE! Since I will hopefully have
chicks soon, I'm contemplating the correct food for new chicks.
I know there is a "medicated" and "non-medicated" chick grower
feed. I am an organic gardener and want my chickens to be
organic but also am concerned about chick health issues. I'm
sure it's personal preference, but what do you say? Also, I
have half a bag of non-medicated chick grower feed that I got
with my hens....but that was last summer. Is it still good? I
read somewhere that feed loses its nutritional value over time.
I have stored it all this time in dry conditions but definitely
don't want to use it if it is not safe. I guess I could always
feed it to my night crawlers.
Thanks for any insight
Susan
[/quote]I personally would feed "Organic" medicated. I used to
feed organic non medicated and had an issue with coccidiosis one
time with a very clean environment. Coccidiosis is easy enough
to deal with if you catch it in time but why not go ahead and
use a medicated organic starter and head it off at the pass?
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[/quote] Oh, awesome, I didn't know it came in medicated,
organic! Thank you! Coccidiosis was what I was worried about!
#Post#: 727--------------------------------------------------
Re: Feeding proper feed
By: Angela Fore Date: March 28, 2018, 10:10 pm
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[size=12pt]Hmmmmm...... I could have sworn I saw medicated
organic feed at St Elmo a few weeks a go but now I am not seeing
it online. Let me do some research on that. The feed is
medicated with amprolium which a lot of people mistake for an
antibiotic. It is a thiamine blocker that keeps the cocci
protozoa from absorbing enough thiamine to grow and reproduce
thus giving the chick enough time to develop some immunity to
strains present in their environment. Coccidia is EVERYWHERE!!!
And on EVERYTHING!! I have raised 5 sets of babies on organic
non-medicated starter and I only had 1 bout with coccidiosis.
The main thing to remember is to keep their brooder clean and
dry that way the cocci won't have a suitable environment for
proliferation. I have read that some chicken keepers will start
chicks on a medicated starter and then switch to non medicated
after a few weeks. I will be at SEFS on Friday morning, I will
double check about the feed. I hope I didn't make that up about
the organic "medicated" starter but I am starting to wonder if I
did? lol
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Re: Feeding proper feed
By: Susan Austin Coulange Date: March 28, 2018, 11:31 pm
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Angela, you are so funny. No worries, I sometimes accidentally
make stuff up too. LOL I'll ask Mr. Googlepants.
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Re: Feeding proper feed
By: Angela Fore Date: March 29, 2018, 8:37 am
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[quote author=Susan Austin Coulange link=topic=182.msg728#msg728
date=1522297903]
Angela, you are so funny. No worries, I sometimes accidentally
make stuff up too. LOL I'll ask Mr. Googlepants.
[/quote]MR. Googlepants told me I made it up!! Lol! When I was
in SEFS, I remember seeing what I thought was Organic medicated
started and I remember thinking, "Holy Cow! I have never seen
that before, I would use that." Maybe I am trying to will it
into existence. :)
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Re: Feeding proper feed
By: Susan Austin Coulange Date: March 29, 2018, 12:20 pm
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LOL. After reading all the side effects of thiamine deficiency,
I'm opting for non medicated. As a retired RN, I am averse to
all unnatural medication interventions. One medication causes
side effects that require another medication... and so on.
Don't get me started! LOL BTW, the incubator arrived! YAY
I'm going to test it before setting the eggs.
#Post#: 731--------------------------------------------------
Re: Feeding proper feed
By: Angela Fore Date: March 29, 2018, 1:04 pm
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This is a perfect example of what we want our club members to
do. Get all of the facts and then make a decision that is best
for your flock. :)
Just keep the brooder clean and dry you shouldn't have a
problem. If you see a baby puffing up to stay warm, isolating
itself, not eating and there is blood in their poop then you
need to start them on Corrid. Corrid will stop coccidiosis in
quick order but it works best if you catch the symptoms early.
You probably will not have a problem but as long as you know the
signs to look for your babies will be fine.
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