(DIR) Return Create A Forum - Home --------------------------------------------------------- Mobile Bay Area Backyard Chicken Club (Mobile, Alabama) (HTM) https://mbabycc.createaforum.com --------------------------------------------------------- ***************************************************** (DIR) Return to: Chicken Feeds, Supplements & Watering ***************************************************** #Post#: 291-------------------------------------------------- Feeding proper feed By: captjohn Date: February 7, 2018, 6:45 pm --------------------------------------------------------- This is an image from the APA (American Poultry Association) Facebook page and used with educational permission. It shows the difference in feeding corn/scratch only type feeds versus proper nutritional feeds. Quite a difference. Several poultry show judges added that they see this often in 4H settings as well as from old time farmers. Please feed your birds properly. #Post#: 293-------------------------------------------------- Re: Feeding proper feed By: Angela Fore Date: February 7, 2018, 6:56 pm --------------------------------------------------------- [quote author=John Ellis link=topic=182.msg291#msg291 date=1518050756] This is an image from the APA (American Poultry Association) Facebook page and used with educational permission. It shows the difference in feeding corn/scratch only type feeds versus proper nutritional feeds. Quite a difference. Several poultry show judges added that they see this often in 4H settings. Please feed your birds properly. [/quote] Thanks for sharing this pic John. Something I learned at Chicken Boot Camp from Dr. Bob Hess is that penned adult chickens may do fine with 16% layer feed but if your chickens free range they need to be eating a 20-22% feed because of their activity levels. #Post#: 297-------------------------------------------------- Re: Feeding proper feed By: Travis Rayner Date: February 8, 2018, 12:16 am --------------------------------------------------------- [quote author=Angela Fore link=topic=182.msg293#msg293 date=1518051390] [quote author=John Ellis link=topic=182.msg291#msg291 date=1518050756] This is an image from the APA (American Poultry Association) Facebook page and used with educational permission. It shows the difference in feeding corn/scratch only type feeds versus proper nutritional feeds. Quite a difference. Several poultry show judges added that they see this often in 4H settings. Please feed your birds properly. [/quote] Thanks for sharing this pic John. Something I learned at Chicken Boot Camp from Dr. Bob Hess is that penned adult chickens may do fine with 16% layer feed but if your chickens free range they need to be eating a 20-22% feed because of their activity levels. [/quote]That is interesting...never really considered that! #Post#: 723-------------------------------------------------- Re: Feeding proper feed By: Susan Austin Coulange Date: March 28, 2018, 7:02 pm --------------------------------------------------------- I have a question for EVERYONE! Since I will hopefully have chicks soon, I'm contemplating the correct food for new chicks. I know there is a "medicated" and "non-medicated" chick grower feed. I am an organic gardener and want my chickens to be organic but also am concerned about chick health issues. I'm sure it's personal preference, but what do you say? Also, I have half a bag of non-medicated chick grower feed that I got with my hens....but that was last summer. Is it still good? I read somewhere that feed loses its nutritional value over time. I have stored it all this time in dry conditions but definitely don't want to use it if it is not safe. I guess I could always feed it to my night crawlers. Thanks for any insight Susan #Post#: 725-------------------------------------------------- Re: Feeding proper feed By: Susan Austin Coulange Date: March 28, 2018, 7:54 pm --------------------------------------------------------- [quote author=Angela Fore link=topic=182.msg724#msg724 date=1522283355] [quote author=Susan Austin Coulange link=topic=182.msg723#msg723 date=1522281771] I have a question for EVERYONE! Since I will hopefully have chicks soon, I'm contemplating the correct food for new chicks. I know there is a "medicated" and "non-medicated" chick grower feed. I am an organic gardener and want my chickens to be organic but also am concerned about chick health issues. I'm sure it's personal preference, but what do you say? Also, I have half a bag of non-medicated chick grower feed that I got with my hens....but that was last summer. Is it still good? I read somewhere that feed loses its nutritional value over time. I have stored it all this time in dry conditions but definitely don't want to use it if it is not safe. I guess I could always feed it to my night crawlers. Thanks for any insight Susan [/quote]I personally would feed "Organic" medicated. I used to feed organic non medicated and had an issue with coccidiosis one time with a very clean environment. Coccidiosis is easy enough to deal with if you catch it in time but why not go ahead and use a medicated organic starter and head it off at the pass? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk [/quote] Oh, awesome, I didn't know it came in medicated, organic! Thank you! Coccidiosis was what I was worried about! #Post#: 727-------------------------------------------------- Re: Feeding proper feed By: Angela Fore Date: March 28, 2018, 10:10 pm --------------------------------------------------------- [size=12pt]Hmmmmm...... I could have sworn I saw medicated organic feed at St Elmo a few weeks a go but now I am not seeing it online. Let me do some research on that. The feed is medicated with amprolium which a lot of people mistake for an antibiotic. It is a thiamine blocker that keeps the cocci protozoa from absorbing enough thiamine to grow and reproduce thus giving the chick enough time to develop some immunity to strains present in their environment. Coccidia is EVERYWHERE!!! And on EVERYTHING!! I have raised 5 sets of babies on organic non-medicated starter and I only had 1 bout with coccidiosis. The main thing to remember is to keep their brooder clean and dry that way the cocci won't have a suitable environment for proliferation. I have read that some chicken keepers will start chicks on a medicated starter and then switch to non medicated after a few weeks. I will be at SEFS on Friday morning, I will double check about the feed. I hope I didn't make that up about the organic "medicated" starter but I am starting to wonder if I did? lol #Post#: 728-------------------------------------------------- Re: Feeding proper feed By: Susan Austin Coulange Date: March 28, 2018, 11:31 pm --------------------------------------------------------- Angela, you are so funny. No worries, I sometimes accidentally make stuff up too. LOL I'll ask Mr. Googlepants. #Post#: 729-------------------------------------------------- Re: Feeding proper feed By: Angela Fore Date: March 29, 2018, 8:37 am --------------------------------------------------------- [quote author=Susan Austin Coulange link=topic=182.msg728#msg728 date=1522297903] Angela, you are so funny. No worries, I sometimes accidentally make stuff up too. LOL I'll ask Mr. Googlepants. [/quote]MR. Googlepants told me I made it up!! Lol! When I was in SEFS, I remember seeing what I thought was Organic medicated started and I remember thinking, "Holy Cow! I have never seen that before, I would use that." Maybe I am trying to will it into existence. :) Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk #Post#: 730-------------------------------------------------- Re: Feeding proper feed By: Susan Austin Coulange Date: March 29, 2018, 12:20 pm --------------------------------------------------------- LOL. After reading all the side effects of thiamine deficiency, I'm opting for non medicated. As a retired RN, I am averse to all unnatural medication interventions. One medication causes side effects that require another medication... and so on. Don't get me started! LOL BTW, the incubator arrived! YAY I'm going to test it before setting the eggs. #Post#: 731-------------------------------------------------- Re: Feeding proper feed By: Angela Fore Date: March 29, 2018, 1:04 pm --------------------------------------------------------- This is a perfect example of what we want our club members to do. Get all of the facts and then make a decision that is best for your flock. :) Just keep the brooder clean and dry you shouldn't have a problem. If you see a baby puffing up to stay warm, isolating itself, not eating and there is blood in their poop then you need to start them on Corrid. Corrid will stop coccidiosis in quick order but it works best if you catch the symptoms early. You probably will not have a problem but as long as you know the signs to look for your babies will be fine. ***************************************************** (DIR) Next Page