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       #Post#: 24234--------------------------------------------------
       New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to Shu
       t Down Media
       By: BJ Date: August 7, 2018, 4:51 pm
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       The “enemy of the people” talk is working. A plurality of
       self-identified Republicans say they want Trump to have the
       power to take “bad” media outlets out.
       Sam Stein
       08.07.18 11:53 AM ET
       Freedom of the press may be guaranteed in the Constitution.
       But a plurality of Republicans want to give President Trump the
       authority to close down certain news outlets, according to a new
       public opinion survey conducted by Ipsos and provided
       exclusively to The Daily Beast.
       The findings present a sobering picture for the fourth estate,
       with respondents showing diminished trust in the media and
       increased support for punitive measures against its members.
       They also illustrate the extent to which Trump’s anti-press
       drumbeat has shaped public opinion about the role the media
       plays in covering his administration.
       
       All told, 43 percent of self-identified Republicans said that
       they believed “the president should have the authority to close
       news outlets engaged in bad behavior.”
       Only 36 percent disagreed with that statement. When asked if
       Trump should close down specific outlets, including CNN, The
       Washington Post, and The New York Times, nearly a quarter of
       Republicans (23 percent) agreed and 49 percent disagreed.
       Republicans were far more likely to take a negative view of the
       media.
       Forty-eight percent of them said they believed “the news media
       is the enemy of the American people” (just 28 percent disagreed)
       while nearly four out of every five (79 percent) said that they
       believed “the mainstream media treats President Trump unfairly.”
       But swaths of self-identified Democrats and Independents
       supported anti-press positions as well.
       According to the survey, 12 percent of Democrats and 21 percent
       of Independents agreed that “the president should have the
       authority to close news outlets engaged in bad behavior” (74
       percent and 55 percent, respectively, disagreed).
       Additionally, 12 percent of Democrats and 26 percent of
       Independents agreed that “the news media is the enemy of the
       American people” (74 percent and 50 percent, respectively,
       disagreed)
       The concept of an enemy press corps has become a staple of
       Trump’s tweets and public utterances in recent months.
       Much of it appears prompted by stories about internal frictions
       within the White House and a growing fear over the state of the
       investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 campaign.
       Members of the press, as well as top officials at some of the
       nation’s leading publications, have objected to the phrase,
       arguing that it is both wildly inaccurate and deeply dangerous.
       They have pointed to mob-like treatment of the media by Trump
       supporters at various rallies as evidence for their fears.
       Offered the opportunity, Trump’s spokesperson, Sarah Huckabee
       Sanders, declined to denounce the phrase. Other Trump supports
       have insisted that he was merely referring to those outlets that
       spread false information.
       But Trump’s daughter Ivanka and his top adviser Kellyanne Conway
       have both recently said they do not agree that the press is the
       enemy, while adding that the media plays an important
       socio-political role.
       Respondents to the Ipsos survey seemed to generally share that
       belief as well. In one of the poll’s few silver linings for the
       press, 57 percent of all respondents said that they believed
       news and reporters were “necessary to keep the Trump
       administration honest” including a plurality of Republicans (39
       percent agreeing with that statement compared to 35 percent
       disagreeing).
       A slightly less robust 46 percent of respondents said they
       agreed that “most news outlets try their best to produce honest
       reporting” (compared to 35 percent who disagreed). And virtually
       everyone (85 percent of respondents) believed that “freedom of
       the press is essential for American democracy” (compared to 4
       percent opposed to that statement).
       But despite support for journalistic principles in the abstract,
       respondents also seemed inclined to believe that reporters had
       too much professional protection.
       According to the survey, 72 percent of all respondents agree it
       should be easier to sue reporters who knowingly publish false
       information, including 85 percent of Republicans and 63 percent
       of Democrats.
       sam.stein@thedailybeast.com
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       #Post#: 24236--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to
        Shut Down Media
       By: Myahny Date: August 7, 2018, 5:01 pm
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       43% of republicans must not believe in the 1st amendment & the
       Constitution.  Can't fix stupid, can just out vote them.
       #Post#: 24238--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to
        Shut Down Media
       By: MyLady Date: August 7, 2018, 5:21 pm
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       [quote author=Myahny link=topic=1588.msg24236#msg24236
       date=1533679290]
       43% of republicans must not believe in the 1st amendment & the
       Constitution.  Can't fix stupid, can just out vote them.
       [/quote]
       Just yesterday someone here posted that fake news should be
       illegal. Pretty sure she's not a Republican.
       #Post#: 24244--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to
        Shut Down Media
       By: VanillaCupcake Date: August 7, 2018, 5:43 pm
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       [quote author=Sansa link=topic=1588.msg24238#msg24238
       date=1533680468]
       [quote author=Myahny link=topic=1588.msg24236#msg24236
       date=1533679290]
       43% of republicans must not believe in the 1st amendment & the
       Constitution.  Can't fix stupid, can just out vote them.
       [/quote]
       Just yesterday someone here posted that fake news should be
       illegal. Pretty sure she's not a Republican.
       [/quote]LMAO. That was me.
       I was joking.  I didn't realize people actually wanted it!
       And no I'm not a Republican or Democrat.
       I agree with points on both sides so I don't claim either.
       I do think that in times of war it may be necessary to shut out
       the media.
       Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
       #Post#: 24290--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to
        Shut Down Media
       By: meriana Date: August 8, 2018, 12:17 am
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       All told, 43 percent of self-identified Republicans said that
       they believed “the president should have the authority to close
       news outlets engaged in bad behavior.”
       That would be pretty much all of them except, of course, for Fox
       since Trump views all news that is less than complimentary as
       bad, or fake, and the media outlets that publish it, present it
       on a newscast, etc. as engaging in bad behavior.  Trump would
       love the ability to control the media, or at least be able to
       silence any, and all opinions, etc. that differ from, or oppose
       his own.
       #Post#: 24296--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to
        Shut Down Media
       By: BJ Date: August 8, 2018, 7:18 am
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       “Attacking the news media is a time-honored White House tactic,”
       says media critic Brian Stelter, but “to an unusual degree,”
       this administration has “narrowed its sights to one specific
       organization,” which it has deemed “part of the political
       opposition.”
       Stelter quotes a top White House staffer: “We’re going to treat
       them the way we would treat an opponent,” she says. “We don’t
       need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news
       organizations behave.”
       Stelter didn’t write those words about President Donald Trump,
       and the rogue media organization isn’t Stelter’s current
       employer, CNN.
       Nor is the White House aide defending the strategy of open
       hostility from Sarah Huckabee Sanders or Kellyanne Conway.
       Stelter wrote those words in 2009, for The New York Times, and
       he wrote them about President Barack Obama, who was then in the
       midst of furious battle with Fox News.
       In many ways, it was a protracted fight that presaged the one
       Trump is now waging against CNN and the rest of the mainstream
       media.
       The Obama-Fox News feud is a reminder that presidents frequently
       clash with media outlets.
       In 1993, for example, Jacob Weisberg wrote in Vanity Fair about
       the White House press corps under Bill Clinton: “Four months
       into the new administration, relations between president and
       media hit what may have been their post-Watergate low.”
       Eleven years later , Ken Auletta wrote in The New Yorker that
       George W. Bush “sees the press as ‘élitist’ and thinks that the
       social and economic backgrounds of most reporters have nothing
       in common with those of most Americans.”
       To supporters of Trump, his criticisms of the press don’t differ
       in substance from those of his predecessors.
       Rather, the key distinction is that those criticisms are
       filtered through his bombastic, hyperbolic personality. They are
       then relayed to the public not through agents of that very press
       but via Twitter, where those opinions have no constraint but the
       social network’s 140-character limit.
       [quote author=meriana link=topic=1588.msg24290#msg24290
       date=1533705441]
       All told, 43 percent of self-identified Republicans said that
       they believed “the president should have the authority to close
       news outlets engaged in bad behavior.”
       That would be pretty much all of them except, of course, for Fox
       since Trump views all news that is less than complimentary as
       bad, or fake, and the media outlets that publish it, present it
       on a newscast, etc. as engaging in bad behavior.  Trump would
       love the ability to control the media, or at least be able to
       silence any, and all opinions, etc. that differ from, or oppose
       his own.
       [/quote]
       #Post#: 25882--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to
        Shut Down Media
       By: EarlGrayHot Date: August 21, 2018, 10:06 am
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       Dictators want to control media.  Decent Americans do not.  Not
       to mention that Trump lies more than any media outlet.
       #Post#: 26282--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to
        Shut Down Media
       By: MyLady Date: August 23, 2018, 8:56 am
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       [quote author=EarlGrayHot link=topic=1588.msg25882#msg25882
       date=1534864013]
       Dictators want to control media.  Decent Americans do not.  Not
       to mention that Trump lies more than any media outlet.
       [/quote]
       Back in the CEHT days many of us wondered for years why Obama
       continued to lie constantly under his platform of
       "transparency". People there said it's because he's a politician
       and politicians can't always tell the whole truth when pushing
       their agendas - such as the lie that "everyone would be able to
       keep their doctors" even though he knew full well that was a
       lie. But he couldn't have pushed Obamacare through without that
       lie.
       Now, Trump is a moron who can't quit Twitter and it makes me
       crazy. That being said, what straight out whopper lie has Trump
       told that has hurt the American people?
       #Post#: 26347--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to
        Shut Down Media
       By: BJ Date: August 23, 2018, 4:16 pm
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       [quote author=Sansa link=topic=1588.msg26282#msg26282
       date=1535032568]
       [quote author=EarlGrayHot link=topic=1588.msg25882#msg25882
       date=1534864013]
       Dictators want to control media.  Decent Americans do not.  Not
       to mention that Trump lies more than any media outlet.
       [/quote]
       Back in the CEHT days many of us wondered for years why Obama
       continued to lie constantly under his platform of
       "transparency". People there said it's because he's a politician
       and politicians can't always tell the whole truth when pushing
       their agendas - such as the lie that "everyone would be able to
       keep their doctors" even though he knew full well that was a
       lie. But he couldn't have pushed Obamacare through without that
       lie.
       Now, Trump is a moron who can't quit Twitter and it makes me
       crazy. That being said, what straight out whopper lie has Trump
       told that has hurt the American people?
       [/quote]
       He is not a moron
       Why would he quit Twitter?
       It is direct
       It is effective
       #Post#: 26685--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to
        Shut Down Media
       By: Lizette Date: August 26, 2018, 9:17 pm
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       [quote author=Sansa link=topic=1588.msg26282#msg26282
       date=1535032568]
       [quote author=EarlGrayHot link=topic=1588.msg25882#msg25882
       date=1534864013]
       Dictators want to control media.  Decent Americans do not.  Not
       to mention that Trump lies more than any media outlet.
       [/quote]
       Back in the CEHT days many of us wondered for years why Obama
       continued to lie constantly under his platform of
       "transparency". People there said it's because he's a politician
       and politicians can't always tell the whole truth when pushing
       their agendas - such as the lie that "everyone would be able to
       keep their doctors" even though he knew full well that was a
       lie. But he couldn't have pushed Obamacare through without that
       lie.
       Now, Trump is a moron who can't quit Twitter and it makes me
       crazy. That being said, what straight out whopper lie has Trump
       told that has hurt the American people?
       [/quote]
       I love the biggest lie mentioned from obama is that you can keep
       your doctor.  The horror!!!!  The evil!!!!   How will America
       survive if people have to switch doctors!  I have never heard of
       having to switch doctors in my entire life.  I thought I was
       guaranteed, as an American citizen, that I would have the same
       doctor from cradle to grave?  No'!!!!!!!!!!!
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