(DIR) Return Create A Forum - Home --------------------------------------------------------- Mother Lounge (HTM) https://motherlounge.createaforum.com --------------------------------------------------------- ***************************************************** (DIR) Return to: Politics & Current Events ***************************************************** #Post#: 24234-------------------------------------------------- New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to Shu t Down Media By: BJ Date: August 7, 2018, 4:51 pm --------------------------------------------------------- The “enemy of the people” talk is working. A plurality of self-identified Republicans say they want Trump to have the power to take “bad” media outlets out. Sam Stein 08.07.18 11:53 AM ET Freedom of the press may be guaranteed in the Constitution. But a plurality of Republicans want to give President Trump the authority to close down certain news outlets, according to a new public opinion survey conducted by Ipsos and provided exclusively to The Daily Beast. The findings present a sobering picture for the fourth estate, with respondents showing diminished trust in the media and increased support for punitive measures against its members. They also illustrate the extent to which Trump’s anti-press drumbeat has shaped public opinion about the role the media plays in covering his administration. All told, 43 percent of self-identified Republicans said that they believed “the president should have the authority to close news outlets engaged in bad behavior.” Only 36 percent disagreed with that statement. When asked if Trump should close down specific outlets, including CNN, The Washington Post, and The New York Times, nearly a quarter of Republicans (23 percent) agreed and 49 percent disagreed. Republicans were far more likely to take a negative view of the media. Forty-eight percent of them said they believed “the news media is the enemy of the American people” (just 28 percent disagreed) while nearly four out of every five (79 percent) said that they believed “the mainstream media treats President Trump unfairly.” But swaths of self-identified Democrats and Independents supported anti-press positions as well. According to the survey, 12 percent of Democrats and 21 percent of Independents agreed that “the president should have the authority to close news outlets engaged in bad behavior” (74 percent and 55 percent, respectively, disagreed). Additionally, 12 percent of Democrats and 26 percent of Independents agreed that “the news media is the enemy of the American people” (74 percent and 50 percent, respectively, disagreed) The concept of an enemy press corps has become a staple of Trump’s tweets and public utterances in recent months. Much of it appears prompted by stories about internal frictions within the White House and a growing fear over the state of the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 campaign. Members of the press, as well as top officials at some of the nation’s leading publications, have objected to the phrase, arguing that it is both wildly inaccurate and deeply dangerous. They have pointed to mob-like treatment of the media by Trump supporters at various rallies as evidence for their fears. Offered the opportunity, Trump’s spokesperson, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, declined to denounce the phrase. Other Trump supports have insisted that he was merely referring to those outlets that spread false information. But Trump’s daughter Ivanka and his top adviser Kellyanne Conway have both recently said they do not agree that the press is the enemy, while adding that the media plays an important socio-political role. Respondents to the Ipsos survey seemed to generally share that belief as well. In one of the poll’s few silver linings for the press, 57 percent of all respondents said that they believed news and reporters were “necessary to keep the Trump administration honest” including a plurality of Republicans (39 percent agreeing with that statement compared to 35 percent disagreeing). A slightly less robust 46 percent of respondents said they agreed that “most news outlets try their best to produce honest reporting” (compared to 35 percent who disagreed). And virtually everyone (85 percent of respondents) believed that “freedom of the press is essential for American democracy” (compared to 4 percent opposed to that statement). But despite support for journalistic principles in the abstract, respondents also seemed inclined to believe that reporters had too much professional protection. According to the survey, 72 percent of all respondents agree it should be easier to sue reporters who knowingly publish false information, including 85 percent of Republicans and 63 percent of Democrats. sam.stein@thedailybeast.com (HTM) https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-poll-43-of-republicans-want-to-give-trump-the-power-to-shut-down-media #Post#: 24236-------------------------------------------------- Re: New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to Shut Down Media By: Myahny Date: August 7, 2018, 5:01 pm --------------------------------------------------------- 43% of republicans must not believe in the 1st amendment & the Constitution. Can't fix stupid, can just out vote them. #Post#: 24238-------------------------------------------------- Re: New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to Shut Down Media By: MyLady Date: August 7, 2018, 5:21 pm --------------------------------------------------------- [quote author=Myahny link=topic=1588.msg24236#msg24236 date=1533679290] 43% of republicans must not believe in the 1st amendment & the Constitution. Can't fix stupid, can just out vote them. [/quote] Just yesterday someone here posted that fake news should be illegal. Pretty sure she's not a Republican. #Post#: 24244-------------------------------------------------- Re: New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to Shut Down Media By: VanillaCupcake Date: August 7, 2018, 5:43 pm --------------------------------------------------------- [quote author=Sansa link=topic=1588.msg24238#msg24238 date=1533680468] [quote author=Myahny link=topic=1588.msg24236#msg24236 date=1533679290] 43% of republicans must not believe in the 1st amendment & the Constitution. Can't fix stupid, can just out vote them. [/quote] Just yesterday someone here posted that fake news should be illegal. Pretty sure she's not a Republican. [/quote]LMAO. That was me. I was joking. I didn't realize people actually wanted it! And no I'm not a Republican or Democrat. I agree with points on both sides so I don't claim either. I do think that in times of war it may be necessary to shut out the media. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk #Post#: 24290-------------------------------------------------- Re: New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to Shut Down Media By: meriana Date: August 8, 2018, 12:17 am --------------------------------------------------------- All told, 43 percent of self-identified Republicans said that they believed “the president should have the authority to close news outlets engaged in bad behavior.” That would be pretty much all of them except, of course, for Fox since Trump views all news that is less than complimentary as bad, or fake, and the media outlets that publish it, present it on a newscast, etc. as engaging in bad behavior. Trump would love the ability to control the media, or at least be able to silence any, and all opinions, etc. that differ from, or oppose his own. #Post#: 24296-------------------------------------------------- Re: New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to Shut Down Media By: BJ Date: August 8, 2018, 7:18 am --------------------------------------------------------- “Attacking the news media is a time-honored White House tactic,” says media critic Brian Stelter, but “to an unusual degree,” this administration has “narrowed its sights to one specific organization,” which it has deemed “part of the political opposition.” Stelter quotes a top White House staffer: “We’re going to treat them the way we would treat an opponent,” she says. “We don’t need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave.” Stelter didn’t write those words about President Donald Trump, and the rogue media organization isn’t Stelter’s current employer, CNN. Nor is the White House aide defending the strategy of open hostility from Sarah Huckabee Sanders or Kellyanne Conway. Stelter wrote those words in 2009, for The New York Times, and he wrote them about President Barack Obama, who was then in the midst of furious battle with Fox News. In many ways, it was a protracted fight that presaged the one Trump is now waging against CNN and the rest of the mainstream media. The Obama-Fox News feud is a reminder that presidents frequently clash with media outlets. In 1993, for example, Jacob Weisberg wrote in Vanity Fair about the White House press corps under Bill Clinton: “Four months into the new administration, relations between president and media hit what may have been their post-Watergate low.” Eleven years later , Ken Auletta wrote in The New Yorker that George W. Bush “sees the press as ‘élitist’ and thinks that the social and economic backgrounds of most reporters have nothing in common with those of most Americans.” To supporters of Trump, his criticisms of the press don’t differ in substance from those of his predecessors. Rather, the key distinction is that those criticisms are filtered through his bombastic, hyperbolic personality. They are then relayed to the public not through agents of that very press but via Twitter, where those opinions have no constraint but the social network’s 140-character limit. [quote author=meriana link=topic=1588.msg24290#msg24290 date=1533705441] All told, 43 percent of self-identified Republicans said that they believed “the president should have the authority to close news outlets engaged in bad behavior.” That would be pretty much all of them except, of course, for Fox since Trump views all news that is less than complimentary as bad, or fake, and the media outlets that publish it, present it on a newscast, etc. as engaging in bad behavior. Trump would love the ability to control the media, or at least be able to silence any, and all opinions, etc. that differ from, or oppose his own. [/quote] #Post#: 25882-------------------------------------------------- Re: New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to Shut Down Media By: EarlGrayHot Date: August 21, 2018, 10:06 am --------------------------------------------------------- Dictators want to control media. Decent Americans do not. Not to mention that Trump lies more than any media outlet. #Post#: 26282-------------------------------------------------- Re: New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to Shut Down Media By: MyLady Date: August 23, 2018, 8:56 am --------------------------------------------------------- [quote author=EarlGrayHot link=topic=1588.msg25882#msg25882 date=1534864013] Dictators want to control media. Decent Americans do not. Not to mention that Trump lies more than any media outlet. [/quote] Back in the CEHT days many of us wondered for years why Obama continued to lie constantly under his platform of "transparency". People there said it's because he's a politician and politicians can't always tell the whole truth when pushing their agendas - such as the lie that "everyone would be able to keep their doctors" even though he knew full well that was a lie. But he couldn't have pushed Obamacare through without that lie. Now, Trump is a moron who can't quit Twitter and it makes me crazy. That being said, what straight out whopper lie has Trump told that has hurt the American people? #Post#: 26347-------------------------------------------------- Re: New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to Shut Down Media By: BJ Date: August 23, 2018, 4:16 pm --------------------------------------------------------- [quote author=Sansa link=topic=1588.msg26282#msg26282 date=1535032568] [quote author=EarlGrayHot link=topic=1588.msg25882#msg25882 date=1534864013] Dictators want to control media. Decent Americans do not. Not to mention that Trump lies more than any media outlet. [/quote] Back in the CEHT days many of us wondered for years why Obama continued to lie constantly under his platform of "transparency". People there said it's because he's a politician and politicians can't always tell the whole truth when pushing their agendas - such as the lie that "everyone would be able to keep their doctors" even though he knew full well that was a lie. But he couldn't have pushed Obamacare through without that lie. Now, Trump is a moron who can't quit Twitter and it makes me crazy. That being said, what straight out whopper lie has Trump told that has hurt the American people? [/quote] He is not a moron Why would he quit Twitter? It is direct It is effective #Post#: 26685-------------------------------------------------- Re: New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to Shut Down Media By: Lizette Date: August 26, 2018, 9:17 pm --------------------------------------------------------- [quote author=Sansa link=topic=1588.msg26282#msg26282 date=1535032568] [quote author=EarlGrayHot link=topic=1588.msg25882#msg25882 date=1534864013] Dictators want to control media. Decent Americans do not. Not to mention that Trump lies more than any media outlet. [/quote] Back in the CEHT days many of us wondered for years why Obama continued to lie constantly under his platform of "transparency". People there said it's because he's a politician and politicians can't always tell the whole truth when pushing their agendas - such as the lie that "everyone would be able to keep their doctors" even though he knew full well that was a lie. But he couldn't have pushed Obamacare through without that lie. Now, Trump is a moron who can't quit Twitter and it makes me crazy. That being said, what straight out whopper lie has Trump told that has hurt the American people? [/quote] I love the biggest lie mentioned from obama is that you can keep your doctor. The horror!!!! The evil!!!! How will America survive if people have to switch doctors! I have never heard of having to switch doctors in my entire life. I thought I was guaranteed, as an American citizen, that I would have the same doctor from cradle to grave? No'!!!!!!!!!!! ***************************************************** (DIR) Next Page