(DIR) Return Create A Forum - Home --------------------------------------------------------- Mother Lounge (HTM) https://motherlounge.createaforum.com --------------------------------------------------------- ***************************************************** (DIR) Return to: Politics & Current Events ***************************************************** #Post#: 27840-------------------------------------------------- The BIG Lie: Feinstein on 'Deaths From Illegal Abortions' By: BJ Date: September 7, 2018, 11:03 am --------------------------------------------------------- The BIG Lie: Feinstein on 'Deaths From Illegal Abortions' Jordan Candler As corroborated by their incessant political theater, the dueling top interests of Democrat thespians are gun control and abortion, both of which they consider sacrosanct — to the point that these issues compete with each other as the litmus test for judicial nominees. Therefore, no off-the-rocker rhetoric is off limits if it means Democrats succeed in ratcheting up tension and obstruction. The most outlandish bout of political theater on abortion this week occurred while Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) was lecturing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh — an originalist whose jurisprudence doesn't bode well for judicial despotism like Roe v. Wade. On Wednesday, Feinstein ridiculously asserted, "In the 1950s and '60s, the two decades before Roe, deaths from illegal abortions in this country ran between 200,000 and 1.2 million. So, a lot of women died." These numbers were supposedly obtained from the Guttmacher Institute, but as the Washington Examiner's Becket Adams reveals, Feinstein was spewing fake news: "The Guttmacher Institute has reported no such thing. What Sen. Feinstein claimed during Wednesday's hearing is either her own ignorant misreading of the institute's reporting or it's an intentional, outright lie." Instead, Guttmacher reports, "Estimates of the number of illegal abortions in the 1950s and 1960s ranged from 200,000 to 1.2 million per year. One analysis, extrapolating from data from North Carolina, concluded that an estimated 829,000 illegal or self-induced abortions occurred in 1967." Feinstein is conflating two very distinct things — the estimated number of unlawful abortions every year before they became legal, and maternal deaths. So her assertion this week that up to 1.2 million mothers died because abortion wasn't yet legal — and therefore hazardous to the mother — is a fabrication. Yet she does unintentionally make a very important point. A huge number of people did die every year during that period. In fact, a life is taken every time an abortion occurs, regardless of whether or not abortion is legal. Legality makes no difference. Remember, 60 million babies have been terminated since abortion was legalized. Feinstein told Kavanaugh, "How you make a judgment on these issues is really important to our vote as to whether to support you or not. Because I don't want to go back to those death tolls in this country." The truth is, even if abortion procedures went from hazardous to "safe," those death tolls never actually went away. #Post#: 27856-------------------------------------------------- Re: The BIG Lie: Feinstein on 'Deaths From Illegal Abortions' By: RedTest Date: September 7, 2018, 1:56 pm --------------------------------------------------------- Maternal deaths from illegal abortions cause terrible suffering. Safe, legal abortion alleviates suffering. Ask yourself who is suffering and then you can find out who needs help. Crying on behalf of those who never suffered is only you suffering. #Post#: 28069-------------------------------------------------- Re: The BIG Lie: Feinstein on 'Deaths From Illegal Abortions' By: Highpockets Date: September 8, 2018, 5:09 pm --------------------------------------------------------- Abortion is safer than childbirth. Abortion has existed since humans have and it will never go away. You want to reduce the rate of abortion, do it by reducing the rate of unwanted pregnancy through education and contraception, and by supporting young women with unexpected pregnancies. #Post#: 28072-------------------------------------------------- Re: The BIG Lie: Feinstein on 'Deaths From Illegal Abortions' By: Myahny Date: September 8, 2018, 6:13 pm --------------------------------------------------------- If you don't want an abortion, then don't have one. But keep your fucking religion & laws away from MY body and MY rights. #Post#: 28162-------------------------------------------------- Re: The BIG Lie: Feinstein on 'Deaths From Illegal Abortions' By: Highpockets Date: September 9, 2018, 8:17 am --------------------------------------------------------- Pro-lifers don't really care about reducing the rate of abortion, they care about posturing and pretending to be super moral. If they cared about reducing abortion, they would stop trying to make contraception less available. They would support sex ed. They would support public programs that help young women get affordable food, housing and job training. #Post#: 28167-------------------------------------------------- Re: The BIG Lie: Feinstein on 'Deaths From Illegal Abortions' By: ILive4This Date: September 9, 2018, 8:50 am --------------------------------------------------------- Fucking Patriot Post, nothing ever changes. So much nonsense in the first couple paragraphs, I couldn't even make it to the numbers. But really, does it matter what the actual number is? You/them are splitting hairs. *****************************************************