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       feature not a bug
       By: uaxed Date: October 16, 2018, 10:03 am
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       I would say the Khashoggi killing is a feature, not a bug, of
       the new authoritarian rise.  That is, the people who support the
       authoritarians will be okay with it, rather than outraged.
       Are you?
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       Re: feature not a bug
       By: PiscesFishy Date: October 16, 2018, 10:26 pm
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       Re: feature not a bug
       By: uaxed Date: October 17, 2018, 10:31 am
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       Authoritarianism is on the rise.  Not just in the United States.
       Right-wing nationalist movements are gaining in Europe and
       South America. The rise of MBS and the normalizing of Saudi
       totalitarianism on the world stage is the same movement.
       A main vector of authoritarianism is discrediting and destroying
       the press.  Totalitarian dictatorships, like Russia and Saudi
       Arabia, assassinate reporters.   That is what this is.
       Authoritarian nationalists will consider this a win.  Those who
       downplay it, who pretend it was not deliberate, are flying cover
       for the authoritarians.  It remains to be seen if they can get
       away with it.
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       Re: feature not a bug
       By: Brainysmurf Date: October 17, 2018, 10:48 am
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       Very interesting. How do you see this spreading in the United
       States?
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       Re: feature not a bug
       By: uaxed Date: October 17, 2018, 10:56 am
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       "Fake news!"
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       Re: feature not a bug
       By: uaxed Date: October 21, 2018, 9:57 am
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       Who believes the Saudi's story?  Don't be shy, step up!
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       Re: feature not a bug
       By: saphira1207 Date: October 21, 2018, 10:12 am
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       Almost no one believes the story as far as I can tell.  Did you
       not see Brainy's question?
       [quote author=uaxed link=topic=1981.msg30955#msg30955
       date=1540133848]Who believes the Saudi's story?  Don't be shy,
       step up!
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       Re: feature not a bug
       By: meriana Date: November 6, 2018, 8:13 am
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       [quote author=uaxed link=topic=1981.msg30856#msg30856
       date=1539791815]
       "Fake news!"
       [/quote]
       It's seen every day on social media sites. People exhorting
       others to vote red or vote blue which are really calls to vote
       for the party rather than the candidate. Both parties have, and
       have always had their share of extremists but these day it
       appears the extremists have taken over. People on the left
       accuse those on the right of being uneducated among a list of
       other things while many of those on the right accuse the left of
       being vile, violent traitors out to destroy the country.  If one
       party is able to have complete control over the 3 branches of
       government for a long enough period of time, our current form of
       government will cease to exist in this country. We have a
       President who encourages nationalism, who treats this country as
       though it's a part of his business empire, who loves adoration,
       and power, and who is undermining the intelligence agencies, the
       DOJ, and the free press at every opportunity as well as publicly
       demeaning anyone he feels is not completely in step with what he
       wants. Governments are not always changed, or done away with
       through coups or other forceful means....sometimes the change
       from one form of government to another occurs slowly, one
       seemingly innocuous step towards "something better" after
       another, until one day the population wakes up and finds their
       countries form of government gone and another form in control.
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