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       #Post#: 34821--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why are people against the wall?
       By: Myahny Date: February 5, 2019, 2:07 pm
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       Yes, let's just kill random people fleeing violence in their
       country.   That'll fix everything.  What a fucking joke.
       We don't need to waste BILLIONS of dollars on an unnecessary
       monument to the fucktard currently holding our country hostage.
       The fucktard doesn't want the wall anyway, he wants the FIGHT
       for the wall.  He was offered $25 billion last year & he turned
       it down.
       #Post#: 34855--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why are people against the wall?
       By: Highpockets Date: February 7, 2019, 6:43 pm
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       Most criminals and drugs come through legal points of entry.  An
       interesting fact is that the number of HS officers at the legal
       entry points is well below what the department recommends.  So
       why not put funding into employing more officers, who can do
       more to make sure that those crossing at these places are not
       moving drugs across the border?
       The number of people illegally crossing the southern border is
       at the LOWEST point it has been since Nixon was president.
       Three times more people cross the northern border illegally, or
       overstay visas.
       The whole wall bullshit was Trump playing to the lowest common
       denominator in his base and that's who he continues to play to.
       It's not about making Americans safer, it's about his ego and
       him trying to fulfill one of his nonsensical promises.
       #Post#: 34914--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why are people against the wall?
       By: uaxed Date: February 12, 2019, 8:19 am
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       This entire discussion is insane.  Tough drug and border
       enforcement are the reason drug cartels are now more powerful
       than the government in Mexico.  Having drugs be illegal is what
       causes the drug problems.  The laws are not lowering demand, at
       all, and prohibitions empower suppliers.
       Drugs and people from other countries are not a problem.   If
       drugs are legal and society has good health systems, then people
       with drug problems get help without obstacles.  And where people
       happen to be standing at this moment, in relation to where they
       were born, is meaningless.   People could come here, find there
       is no hiring process for illegals, and go home.  But that is not
       what they find.
       #Post#: 35026--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why are people against the wall?
       By: Debmomto2teens Date: February 22, 2019, 8:38 pm
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       It is dumb and a waste of money. Most drugs coming into this
       country are coming in thru ports.
       #Post#: 35032--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why are people against the wall?
       By: meriana Date: February 24, 2019, 9:04 am
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       [quote author=Myahny link=topic=2182.msg34821#msg34821
       date=1549397234]
       Yes, let's just kill random people fleeing violence in their
       country.   That'll fix everything.  What a fucking joke.
       We don't need to waste BILLIONS of dollars on an unnecessary
       monument to the fucktard currently holding our country hostage.
       The fucktard doesn't want the wall anyway, he wants the FIGHT
       for the wall.  He was offered $25 billion last year & he turned
       it down.
       [/quote]
       Of course. He needed a hot-button issue for his re-election
       campaign, and now he has one.
       #Post#: 35068--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why are people against the wall?
       By: Debmomto2teens Date: February 26, 2019, 4:27 am
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       The many drugs come thru ports not the border. The wall is a
       huge waste of money.
       I live in Philadelphia. Kensington is the #1 area for opioid
       abuse. The opioids did not come from the border. It comes thru
       ports. A wall wouldn’t do shit here.
       #Post#: 35769--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why are people against the wall?
       By: guest854 Date: July 27, 2019, 8:31 am
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       The exorbitant amount of money that Ind.#1 wants to spend on the
       wall could be spent in much better ways. Plus, the U.S.
       **needs** more people/immigrants. Our country isn't full; that's
       just one of Ind. #1's MANY LIES. We do need a pathway to
       citizenship. It's not hard to figure out that the crisis at the
       border **at this time** was administration made.
       Many Hispanic immigrants do jobs that Americans refuse to do:
       Meat-packing plants, dairy farms, hog farms, picking of fruit,
       etc. I'm tired of people complaining that immigrants are "taking
       American jobs." Hell, Americans don't want those jobs anyway.
       Some jobs are being eliminated due to robots now being used
       more; the amount of robotics is suppose to increase quite a bit
       over the next 15-20 years.
       I live down the street from Hispanics. They work at the same
       place my husband does (warehouse). They drive nice vehicles
       because they work. Our neighbors, on the other hand, they’re the
       real (govt.) thieves.
       We need a pathway for citizenship put in place immediately. We
       don't have enough people. Baby boomers are retiring at record
       numbers, women are able to make the decision to have fewer
       children through more effective BC, the teen pregnancy rate is
       at an all-time low due to teens choosing to abstain from sex or
       using highly-effective BC, and I believe I read more people are
       going to college for tech jobs leaving many other jobs unfilled.
       ConDon saying our country is full is total BS; that's just him
       throwing red meat to his racist base and letting his true colors
       show. America has always been great; since his illegitimate
       presidency began, and I say it's illegitimate due to the FACT
       that Individual #1 admitted, on Twitter, on May 30th, that the
       Russians did help him get elected, hate crimes have increased.
       His blatant racism has given the KKK, Neo-Nazis, and White
       Nationalists a green light to come out of the dark corners.
       Also, everyone who missed it, Ind.#1 has already stated that he
       plans on accepting help from a foreign power to get re-elected.
       Let **that** sink in. He actually WELCOMES foreign countries to
       meddle in our elections. He's a disgrace and is beneath the
       office of the presidency.
       The economy has now begun to slow down some. He’ll have all
       kinds excuses/lies as to the why. The American president is
       suppose to unite people, not divide people.
       EDITED TO ADD: Soon he will be landing down in El Paso to show
       up and give lip service. That's all it will be; he's not capable
       of empathy or compassion. Remember, he was the one who replied
       to some of his HATE RALLY attendees, after they said that
       immigrants should be shot to stop the invasion (his constant
       word), that 'THAT'S ONLY IN THE PANHANDLE THAT YOU CAN DO THAT.'
       AND THEN HE LAUGHED AND SMILED.
       Everyone needs to get out and vote in 2020, and make sure you
       vote AGAINST INDIVIDUAL #1.
       He's now left El Paso and never once mentioned, on camera, the
       people who were killed or the survivors. Probably because he was
       too busy criticizing the officials in Ohio. And mentioning the
       love and the respect shown for **HIM**. Also, bragging about his
       crowd size from three months prior at his HATE RALLY. Wonder
       when he's going to pay El Paso the over $500,000 he owes them
       for security for that rally??? Unfortunately, it's obvious he
       hasn't a clue that, as President of the U.S., his words matter.
       We simply cannot unload this Putin-loving slime fast enough.
       Also, just a little food for thought: This administration CUT
       government resources to fight white supremacy and domestic
       terrorism. Yeah, everyone is a lot safer on his watch, right?
       Must be getting a little too close to his base.
       #Post#: 35780--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Why are people against the wall?
       By: uaxed Date: August 7, 2019, 11:03 am
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       Well I can't argue with that logic.
       The U.S. has room for immigrants and they are fundamentally no
       different than any other people.  Less likely to be criminals
       than native-born citizens.  Just as likely to do hard work and
       spend into the local economy and contribute more than they take
       as any American.
       Pretending that immigrants are a "different" kind of people is
       white supremacy.  People are people.
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