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Ahead of its Time: Electric Destroyer
By: Hero Date: January 26, 2020, 2:47 pm
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Even though I have too much stuff already, a few years ago I
couldn't resist looking at this "hand-made destroyer" advertised
in the local buy-and-sell paper, especially since, though it was
described as electrically-powered, it was said to have a "small
steam engine" with it.
The pictures show what I found. even though it's huge (the case
is 4 feet long). I dragged it home, and a bit of questioning of
the former owner revealed that his grandfather, an immigrant
from England and thereafter a resident of Ingersoll, Ontario,
Canada, spent over four years of his time in the 1920's building
a model of HMS Lance, the destroyer that fired the first British
shot of WWI on August 5, 1914, and assisted in sinking the
German mine-layer Konigin Luise in the same action (first German
ship sunk in the war).
It really is electrically powered--by the dandiest antique
electric 6-volt motor I've ever seen--and the "small steam
engine" is a good-running masterpiece built by Granddad, too.
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Re: Ahead of its Time: Electric Destroyer
By: Steamloco Date: January 26, 2020, 4:55 pm
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A wonderful bit of history with that ship both actual and in the
model. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Ahead of its Time: Electric Destroyer
By: Stoker Date: January 26, 2020, 5:06 pm
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Those were definitely very special acquisitions that you made. I
don't think it would be possible to resist such an opportunity
were it to come along!
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Re: Ahead of its Time: Electric Destroyer
By: Hero Date: January 26, 2020, 5:18 pm
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Thanks for the nice comments.
Here's a Mitchell's cigarette card from 1915 showing the real
Lance.
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Re: Ahead of its Time: Electric Destroyer
By: Steamandoil Date: February 12, 2020, 9:14 am
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Wow what a great story and a great find. Certainly a one off
model that stands alone for several reasons. You should be proud
to own that.
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Re: Ahead of its Time: Electric Destroyer
By: Hero Date: February 12, 2020, 10:18 am
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Thanks for the compliment.
I'm in the midst of adding radio control--at this point just for
the steering, as I want to preserve as much of the original as
possible but still give it a run every now and then.
I'm still thinking about the throttle. Will an ESC work with
that big ol' 6v brushed motor?
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Re: Ahead of its Time: Electric Destroyer
By: Steam Technology Date: February 12, 2020, 2:32 pm
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Nice boat. What make is the steam engine, I thought a stuart but
it may be small for a 10v
ESC will work with just about any dc motor so should work fine
with yours. It may be worthwhile getting an ESC controller with
adjustable frequency ranges or at least switchable ranges, some
old motors with controllers really sing on certain frequencies.
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Re: Ahead of its Time: Electric Destroyer
By: bigal Date: April 3, 2020, 11:55 pm
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The steam looks very similar to a Monarch engine that I have.
I'll have to take a look for mine
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Re: Ahead of its Time: Electric Destroyer
By: Hero Date: April 4, 2020, 11:00 am
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[quote author=bigal link=topic=2080.msg23690#msg23690
date=1585976120]
The steam looks very similar to a Monarch engine that I have.
I'll have to take a look for mine
[/quote]
Thanks for that. I always thought that it might be home-built,
but if that's the case it's an outstanding job....
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Re: Ahead of its Time: Electric Destroyer
By: Jasper Date: April 4, 2020, 8:07 pm
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Fantastic ship you have , and a lot of detailed craftsman ship
in its construction ! I have seen similar electric motor
configurations in Seaworthy and Jacrim toy boats of the 1920’s
converted to electric. Builders oft used a vertical style
Kendrick & Davis (K&D) or possible a scarce Knapp vertical
mounted sideways like yours. Sorta carved a space in the hull to
fit. Your motor looks possibly modified near the brushes at
coupling end to be better robust ? Hard to tell.
Less powerful toy wood boats of the 1910-30s often used upside
down 6v Gilbert P38 , or an Ajax/ LiittleHustler mounted
upright.
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