(DIR) Return Create A Forum - Home --------------------------------------------------------- Office of Steam Forum for Model &amp ;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp; Toy Steam Gas &amp ;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp; Hot Air Engines (HTM) https://officeofsteamforum.createaforum.com --------------------------------------------------------- ***************************************************** (DIR) Return to: Restorations ***************************************************** #Post#: 40531-------------------------------------------------- Restoration of a Mason Steam Car Engine - Part 3 (last) By: Gregowen Date: April 18, 2021, 7:34 pm --------------------------------------------------------- First, thanks very much for the comments and compliments from our esteemed Moderators, on parts 1-2! This final group of photos shows various views of the finished engine. As reassembly progressed, it soon became obvious that the engine did not have anywhere even close to the level of smooth and free movement required for it to actually function, especially slowly for demonstration purposes, at relatively low PSI. But, I was already prepared with a "Plan B": Since the engine would not be running, I opted to replace both the single broken cylinder head cap and the (intact) valve chest cover with 1/4 inch plexiglass sheet. With these, almost all of the hidden moving parts of the engine would be visible, like a museum display (with the entire engine mounted on a mahogany base). The only part that was left entirely original and untouched is the brass exhaust pipe that exits below the cylinder block (something had to be left all-original!). I was a bit disappointed that my goal of making it run did not bear fruit, but overall was very happy with how it turned out, regardless. I spent an average of about one hour a day on the project, over about four months in 2018. It may no longer be powering a car, but I believe that it would be hard to find a more attractive Mason #1 engine anywhere, and I certainly enjoyed the process. The whole thing weighs about 55 pounds, and is easy to move. Thanks for looking, and of course any questions or comments welcome! - Greg [attachimg=1] [attachimg=2] [attachimg=3] [attachimg=4] [attachimg=5] [attachimg=6] [attachimg=7] #Post#: 40533-------------------------------------------------- Re: Restoration of a Mason Steam Car Engine - Part 3 (last) By: Stoker Date: April 18, 2021, 8:01 pm --------------------------------------------------------- Sorry it didn't turn out at the operational level you were hoping for, but I gotta say that it is officially "Pretty Dang Cool" and definitely very attractive the way that it did turn out. Nicely done!!! Any chance you can back feed power through it with an electric motor, or even a hand crank, to make it go through its motions in a demonstrative manner? #Post#: 40534-------------------------------------------------- Re: Restoration of a Mason Steam Car Engine - Part 3 (last) By: Gregowen Date: April 18, 2021, 10:03 pm --------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for the compliments Stoker, as for the idea of getting it to cycle for demonstrations.....well, I can't see any practical way of using a motor, or even getting it to turn easily by hand, as it sits.... Actually, it WOULD turn fairly easily by hand for demonstrations, except for one problem. Since I was doing my best to restore it to some sort of running order, I assembled it using the correct graphite cord packing needed to seal the piston rods and the valve eccentric rods. That required installing the cord under pressure, in effect, with the pressure applied by the threaded brass "collars" there. That is the way it was made to work, but for this one, that packing just adds even more friction on top of an already imperfect engine. As it is, it will turn over, but requires using both hands applied to both sides of the crankshaft (with plenty of force). To change that, I would probably need to take most of it apart again (including the dreaded ball bearings). Then, it would turn far easier, but would also create a substantial pinching hazard (lots of ways to get fingers caught in this thing). So, for now it stays as it is (probably forever, as long as I have it)! I wish I had a time machine to travel back to 1902, the guys who originally put them together at the Mason factory could fix it all quick. As I worked on this engine, it became obvious that these engines were probably made as much in the tradition of a "blacksmith" shop as by "machinists". I am guessing that the component parts were made and assembled in such a way that some fit with others, and some did not, and the builders had to develop skills to quickly determine which parts from the various bins would, together, make a working engine. I will follow up soon with one last photo - showing all the bits that were left over when I was done (including the graphite cord). Cheers - G #Post#: 40537-------------------------------------------------- Re: Restoration of a Mason Steam Car Engine - Part 3 (last) By: Jim Date: April 19, 2021, 12:32 am --------------------------------------------------------- Really enjoyed this three part series, thank you. #Post#: 40538-------------------------------------------------- Re: Restoration of a Mason Steam Car Engine - Part 3 (last) By: Stoker Date: April 19, 2021, 12:33 am --------------------------------------------------------- Anyway you look at it, that is one beautiful piece of historically significant mechanical art, that anyone would be proud to displace in a place of honor!!! #Post#: 40541-------------------------------------------------- Re: Restoration of a Mason Steam Car Engine - Part 3 (last) By: classixs Date: April 19, 2021, 3:26 am --------------------------------------------------------- Sorry to hear that it wasnīt possible to make it run as intended, but agree with the above. Itīs a very interesting piece of history, that turned out as an amazing display engine. With what you had to work with there, iīd say VERY well done! #Post#: 40560-------------------------------------------------- Re: Restoration of a Mason Steam Car Engine - Part 3 (last) By: Gregowen Date: April 19, 2021, 7:24 pm --------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to all for your compliments, I am honored. I have collected many steam engines over the years, and they were all models, but eventually I guess many people get the urge to have an authentic antique engine that was actually used back in the day. I have only this one, and my unusual "spitjack engine", and that is probably as far as it will go. Most genuine period-used engines are of course just far too big (and/or expensive). Here I share two more photos, one of the unused bits that were left over (both original, and the parts that never got used - including some of the graphite packing cord). The other is a diagrammatic plan showing all the many parts of an entire steam car engine plant. The engine is located at the far lower right (white rectangle), and compared to the complexity of the rest of the system, it almost seems insignificant! Thanks again - G [attachimg=1] [attachimg=2] #Post#: 48489-------------------------------------------------- Re: Restoration of a Mason Steam Car Engine - Part 3 (last) By: jjtjr Date: January 16, 2022, 8:08 am --------------------------------------------------------- Just joined this group. I have a mason engine model c. Which is in a locomobile steam car. It looks the same as your engine except it uses all ball bearings even the cross head slides. My question is did you replace the rings. Ive been driving the car for sometime now and need new rings, getting blow-by on both cylinders, the engine will no longer run. Looking for a source for them, or else i will have to machine them. #Post#: 48710-------------------------------------------------- Re: Restoration of a Mason Steam Car Engine - Part 3 (last) By: jjtjr Date: January 23, 2022, 6:52 am --------------------------------------------------------- After contacting a ring supplier I decided to make them myself. This is not new to me I rebuilt a 1899 mason and had to make rings for it. I did video it and its on youtube. Almost finished just have to split the rings and heat treat them. Testing for blow by (HTM) https://youtu.be/nCtK3HIVmgQ (HTM) https://youtu.be/tvv6I79rciI (HTM) https://youtu.be/-wZ_0m3XecU (HTM) https://youtu.be/hsUCL67jEpU #Post#: 48996-------------------------------------------------- Re: Restoration of a Mason Steam Car Engine - Part 3 (last) By: Gregowen Date: February 2, 2022, 6:37 pm --------------------------------------------------------- Hi JJTJR, I just now saw your posts. No I never replaced the rings, of course I gave up on any hope of making it run before I finished, but the rings seemed to me to be in good shape, fitting well into the bore, not loose. Of course I had no reference to really know either way. Looks like a great project you have there, could you post some photos of the entire car? Thanks - Greg ***************************************************** (DIR) Next Page