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       #Post#: 62685--------------------------------------------------
       Scary Milling
       By: Stoker Date: April 14, 2024, 9:24 am
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       Yesterday I did a bit of what I have to consider as "SCARY"
       milling.
       Using a HSS 3/32" end mill on a case-hardened, angled surface,
       for a two diameter long "notch" that ended up at the deep end as
       being about equal to diameter of the cutter. I had four such
       notches to make in a single piece of metal, and by the fourth
       cut I was getting definite evidence of grab and chatter that
       could well have broken that weak little bit. Clearly, that bit
       became progressively duller during its torturous ordeal. I was
       expecting for it to snap at any moment, leaving me with this
       critical task uncompleted.
       I initially tried a plunge cut, but saw that poor little bit
       deflect down-slope on the angle, so knew that wasn't going to
       work. Coming in slowly and laterally at a fixed depth from open
       air allowed me to initiate the movement of metal, but the feed
       had to be so slow as to almost qualify as an abrasive rather
       than a cutter.
       However, by nursing that poor brutalized little mill bit along
       at about 1400 rpm and feeding it at less than .010" depth per
       cut, I managed to complete all four notches without incident,
       though it seemingly took me forever to accomplish each of the
       four cuts. I doubt if I was feeding more than a very few
       thousandths a second, and still would feel the bit grab and
       catch in what must have been almost certain near breakage.
       In reality I should have been using a 5/64" end mill but I
       didn't have one, and of course I also should have been using
       carbide, but didn't have that either, and as actual size of
       these notches was not super critical, going a little bit
       oversized was an acceptable option in this instance!
       Think I was holding my breath the entire time, as this was the
       only end mill anywhere near that small that I had, so breakage
       would have left me short of completion, and would have meant
       needing to buy another end mill and wait for its arrival.
       Whew!
       #Post#: 62686--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Scary Milling
       By: MasonvilleEngines Date: April 14, 2024, 9:49 am
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       I have more expertise in breaking bits than milling. I find the
       small bits thrilling also. Nice you had the patience to
       persevere. I try to have two on hand of some of the smaller
       sizes I find myself using most.
       Len.
       #Post#: 62687--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Scary Milling
       By: Woe is me Date: April 14, 2024, 9:50 am
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       Good thing it let you nurse it through. If it would have
       snapped, would you raise the chuck
       and leave everything as is until a new bit arrived. Seams like
       that would leave everything
       lined up but it would also tie up the mill. Just wondering.
       #Post#: 62688--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Scary Milling
       By: Stoker Date: April 14, 2024, 9:59 am
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       Yes, I would have left the set-up intact until I could source
       another end mill. While I almost always have many tasks that I
       am behind on, none of them is so critical or pressing as to have
       broken down that set-up. However, the actual issue that is faced
       every time I wish to use the mill, is moving everything out of
       the way so I can get to the mill to make any use of it!   ;c)
       Weather actually also enters into the "equation" of mill usage,
       as the garage (to be read as: Shop) door must be open to make
       any use of my mill.
       #Post#: 62689--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Scary Milling
       By: Stoker Date: April 14, 2024, 10:09 am
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       [quote author=MasonvilleEngines
       link=topic=7121.msg62686#msg62686 date=1713106154]
       I have more expertise in breaking bits than milling. I find the
       small bits thrilling also. Nice you had the patience to
       persevere. I try to have two on hand of some of the smaller
       sizes I find myself using most.
       Len.
       [/quote]
       I'm sure there was a time when I did have two 3/32" end mills,
       but just as a guess ... I broke the other one sometime in the
       past and failed to replace it!?!?
       Next time I'm feeling my wallet bulging (may not ever happen)
       I'll have to get a mill bit order going .... or should I just
       buy another engine instead?!?!
       ;c)
       #Post#: 62691--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Scary Milling
       By: St Paul Steam Date: April 14, 2024, 1:43 pm
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       I feel your anxiety, many is the time I have pushed my little
       micro mill waaaay past its stated limits, hence my wanting I
       mill on par with your excellent machine. 😀
       #Post#: 62819--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Scary Milling
       By: Weedensteam Date: April 19, 2024, 10:12 pm
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       [quote author=MasonvilleEngines
       link=topic=7121.msg62686#msg62686 date=1713106154]
       I have more expertise in breaking bits than milling. I find the
       small bits thrilling also. Nice you had the patience to
       persevere. I try to have two on hand of some of the smaller
       sizes I find myself using most.
       Len.
       [/quote]
       That is my expertise as well, I have learned the hard way to
       alway buy more than one of the small
       sizes.
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       #Post#: 63215--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Scary Milling
       By: Stoker Date: May 2, 2024, 10:11 am
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       While it is generally true that mill bits get progressively more
       expensive as they get larger, it is also true that their price
       tends to skyrocket as they get small, going under about 1/8th
       inch.
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