(DIR) Return Create A Forum - Home --------------------------------------------------------- RateTheRef (HTM) https://ratetheref.createaforum.com --------------------------------------------------------- ***************************************************** (DIR) Return to: Club chat ***************************************************** #Post#: 65389-------------------------------------------------- Gary O'Neill By: Acme Thunderer Date: June 19, 2023, 8:02 am --------------------------------------------------------- The 'silly season' has obviously started early with the sacking of AFC Bournemouth's manager Gary O'Neill just seven months after he was appointed permanent manager and kept them in the PL at a canter. Views? bmb? Aho who next to grace the palm-filled boulevards of the South coast town? Big Sam? #Post#: 65390-------------------------------------------------- Re: Gary O'Neill By: bmb Date: June 19, 2023, 9:58 am --------------------------------------------------------- 7 months too late I think you will find is the overwhelming view of AFCB fans. Appointed as the cheap option while the take over rumbled on and on and on, excellent coach but not a PL manager. We stayed up in spite of him rather than due to him. Less than 1% of fans wanted him appointed in the first place and that maybe generous. Showed a complete lack of ambition as far as we were concerned. If you look around on social media, fans of every other club are saying it's a disgraceful decision and we deserve relegation for it, our fans are saying yeah thanks bye bye! The football was dire under him, he had no plan B - fans wanted him gone long ago. Nice guy, excellent coach & I really hope he goes on to shine elsewhere but I can't say I'm not relieved by the news. Andoni Iraola named as the new gaffer - 2 year deal. #Post#: 65391-------------------------------------------------- Re: Gary O'Neill By: Failed Ref Date: June 19, 2023, 10:08 am --------------------------------------------------------- As an outsider, I was not convinced that he had the necessary qualities and personality to run an ambitious Premiership club. I make no comment about Bournemouth's ambitions! What I find sad is that another foreign manager has been appointed (and I cannot say either way I am impressed by his qualities) and do wonder how a British manager will ever get a manager's job especially from BAME group - or indeed other groups just in case I am accused of being sexist! Wolves performance this year lacked ambition and lacked entertainment but that was out of necessity and in their case and Bournemouth's, it worked. Bit hard to judge O'Neill on his lack of ambition for the side or the quality of performances but those in the know on the south coast may, after careful reflection, understand why the change was felt to be necessary. Just my opinion on a day when I have little else to do! #Post#: 65397-------------------------------------------------- Re: Gary O'Neill By: bmb Date: June 19, 2023, 12:54 pm --------------------------------------------------------- Andoni Iraola - no PL experience but has been ace by many accounts in La Liga so we'll wait and see. I think you are right in relation to GON in the "I was not convinced that he had the necessary qualities and personality to run an ambitious Premiership club." Often referred to as a PE teacher, which I think very disrespectful - he has great coaching ability but not what was needed for a PL manager. It's hard enough to motivate a squad when you're rattling around at the bottom of the table and that takes a huge personality. He was rather too nice in many ways. I really do hope he goes on to shine somewhere, I have nothing against him at all, he's just not the right person to take us forward, imo. Belisa was first choice for the job but couldn't agree personal terms - GON then got appointed. None of it was helped by the length of time the take over took. Max was right to sack Parker on the spot, he was always a very patient and supportive owner (Thank you Max) so to slag him off in the press was unforgivable. The problem was is that is when the takeover talks started to really gather pace & become a reality. Max wouldn't appoint a new permanent manager because he was selling up, the owners in waiting couldn't appoint a new manager as they didn't have the authority to so it was a bit grim really. It had a huge negative affect right across the club. It's only people outside of Bournemouth that seem surprised by the news. Players did what they had to stay up to get new contracts or move on, that was apparent to anyone who watched us more that twice across the season. It was not pretty! Completely agree with you on the lack of opportunities for English coaches though, particularly those from the BAME community. No-one seems willing to give them a chance. Eddie Howe being an exception in terms of young English coaches. I find a sort of comparable thing in players as well to be honest - we seem to spend a lot of time developing other nations promising youngsters in the PL and less English youngsters. I'm all for a cap on the number of foreign players myself. Doesn't affect my nations - Northern Irish and Hungarian players rarely come from the top flight! #Post#: 65399-------------------------------------------------- Re: Gary O'Neill By: Acme Thunderer Date: June 19, 2023, 1:15 pm --------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for these most informative posts. Point taken on Gary O'Neill and I wish him well for the future. The 'silly season' continues though with the departure of Darren Moore from newly-promoted Sheffield Wednesday 'by mutual consent. I wonder what that's all about!? #Post#: 65400-------------------------------------------------- Re: Gary O'Neill By: Failed Ref Date: June 19, 2023, 1:56 pm --------------------------------------------------------- Moore to West Brom, current manger to Leeds. Maybe. #Post#: 65405-------------------------------------------------- Re: Gary O'Neill By: rustyref Date: June 19, 2023, 2:40 pm --------------------------------------------------------- [quote author=Failed Ref link=topic=4991.msg65400#msg65400 date=1687200993] Moore to West Brom, current manger to Leeds. Maybe. [/quote] Don't think so, if Moore was going to another club Wednesday would have wanted compensation, not let him leave by mutual consent. Reading between the lines I think Moore has set out what players he needs to stay in the Championship, Chansiri has told him he is getting next to nothing, so they have agreed to go their separate ways. Also Carlos Carvalhal, who Chansiri loves, has recently left his job so I'd say it is nailed on he will be returning as manager. #Post#: 65432-------------------------------------------------- Re: Gary O'Neill By: stig231 Date: June 21, 2023, 6:41 am --------------------------------------------------------- Give it a couple of years and Eddie Howe will be back at Bournemouth once Newcastle have completed their transformation from the media's plucky-underdog-who-made-the-top-4 into financially-backed-massive-club-that-doesn't-win-everything , at which point they will dispense with Howe and go down the big name foreign coach route and appoint a Benitez/Conte/Mourinho type to "take them to the next level" or some such nonsense! #Post#: 66285-------------------------------------------------- Re: Gary O'Neill By: Failed Ref Date: August 9, 2023, 12:34 pm --------------------------------------------------------- My earlier comments have come back to haunt me. I am a Wolves supporter. BMB's comments are worrying but in truth Wolves were poor entertainment too, struggling to avoid the drop. Fair play rules, poor management and dubious player acquisitions in the past have not helped here but O'Neill's record is better than his predecessor at Wolves. More of the same I fear hampered by the recent past and fans who are not too happy and who will be quick to pull the trigger if the slightest thing goes wrong. #Post#: 66316-------------------------------------------------- Re: Gary O'Neill By: bmb Date: August 11, 2023, 9:49 am --------------------------------------------------------- [quote author=Failed Ref link=topic=4991.msg66285#msg66285 date=1691602440] My earlier comments have come back to haunt me. I am a Wolves supporter. BMB's comments are worrying but in truth Wolves were poor entertainment too, struggling to avoid the drop. Fair play rules, poor management and dubious player acquisitions in the past have not helped here but O'Neill's record is better than his predecessor at Wolves. More of the same I fear hampered by the recent past and fans who are not too happy and who will be quick to pull the trigger if the slightest thing goes wrong. [/quote] Perhaps the biggest positive is that he has a point to prove. I hope he succeeds - maybe he has learned from his time at AFCB & will put that to good use. As I said up there somewhere, he's a really good coach, no doubting his abilities in that respect, it's his team management I think he needs to work on. Wish him all the best to be honest. [quote author=bmb link=topic=4991.msg65397#msg65397 date=1687197271] I find a sort of comparable thing in players as well to be honest - we seem to spend a lot of time developing other nations promising youngsters in the PL and less English youngsters. I'm all for a cap on the number of foreign players myself. Doesn't affect my nations - Northern Irish and Hungarian players rarely come from the top flight! [/quote] I am not complaining at all about my country left back signing for my club! Have my #3 Kerkez shirt all ready for the season! Was the first one bought & the Hungary flag flying was noticeable at the pre-season home games - giving away where I sit! ***************************************************** (DIR) Next Page