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#Post#: 38737--------------------------------------------------
Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
By: Chairman of the Board Date: February 7, 2023, 8:08 am
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it's been 10 years. so it's time. let's recap what progress we
have made.
(HTM) http://sbufan.createaforum.com/around-stony-brook/making-sb-better-idea-thread/
college town: no movement. i suppose some new shops on 25a were
added, but i dont think it's moved the needle. PJ bus was a
good idea but im not sure if its still running nor who uses it.
quads: i was on campus over the weekend. while it's light years
better than 25 years ago, nothing much has moved in the last 10.
still mud and broken concrete, rusty tanks, puddles, garbage,
dirt, weeds everywhere. yes i walked all around campus i always
do.
hall naming: some progress. noble hall, chavez, tubman, for
example.
school naming: no progress.
tower: the wang center went up 20 years ago but i think the
question is- does that make the U recognizable, where HS
students see it and automatically think SBU. i think no.
building aesthetics- not a ton of movement, but it was about
time they renovated the Union (and the Bridge). so that's a
victory. (this excludes new construction; i'm limiting this to
existing buildings.)
NYC presence: none, but we are a finalist for the governor's
island opportunity. that'd be great.
housing crisis: no progress, though, you could argue increased
enrollment is a good thing of course
student hierarchy / honors dorms: none
tradition: still none, in fact, may have retreated much
legends: still very little, still losing time
rivalry: what we may have built with UMBC and vermont and SUNYs
is maybe gone, maybe even JMU. though, things are looking up
for the CAA, whether it's W&M, Del, Towson, hof, etc.
student activities: abysmal. maybe improved but still abysmal.
weekends: worse than abysmal. so no movement. the reviews are
in.
fight song: we have one, but most really dont know it or care.
so no real progress.
athletics: bball made the jump, but that's not the point. the
point is bball shouldve made the jump 4-5 times already. so
it's a huge letdown. so is football. wlax has been an
outperformer, maybe even wbball. baseball does it's usual, i
think, which is good to great.
athletics attendance: still awful, but perhaps improved. a bit.
am i wrong? i dont believe in build it and they will come.
the proof is in.
student misery/disaffection: still at a level unparalleled with
pretty much any other university on earth.
* * *
please feel free to add/remove/expand. the point is- we are
losing time- and ground- to our peers. this is very damaging to
the university and holds us back from being truly great among
the likes of UNC, UCLA, UVa, mich, texas, etc.
on the brighter side, the academic reputation and accolades
continue to roll in. big victories in- keeping tuition down,
lion's share of state funding (comparatively), flagship
designation, diversity initiatives, economic mobility, etc. have
continued to garner attention. USNWR climb. added a great
seal. new pharma school. beer at athletics. there's been much
construction on campus which is good. javits reno underway.
new food halls are amazing. athletic facilities have grown and
will continue to. conference jump. the new pres at least
mentioned student life and athletics, showed up to a game, etc.
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
By: NoVA_Seawolf Date: February 10, 2023, 7:23 pm
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The theme is nothing as far as student life and athletics has
changed much. SBU still has the same reputation of being a
commuter school that's dead on weekends with no real emphasis on
athletics or student activities.
The academic reputation has technically improved, but at what
cost? We're really the school for NYC kids who want a good deal
and those who think grades/school are everything. That's it.
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
By: Chairman of the Board Date: February 22, 2023, 8:52 am
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interesting discussion here:
Is Stony Brook a diverse campus? We asked students what they
think.
(HTM) https://www.sbstatesman.com/2023/02/21/is-stony-brook-a-diverse-campus-we-asked-students-what-they-think/
wayyy back when i was there, SB was the most diverse place i've
ever seen. more than NYC. however, much like other parts of
LI, i dont think SB was integrated. maybe it's changed but i
get out to campus and in the limited amount ive seen it's not
much different.
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
By: Chairman of the Board Date: March 13, 2023, 12:31 pm
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(HTM) https://alumniandfriends.stonybrook.edu/site/DocServer/Stony_Brook_Foundation_President_s_Report_March_2023.pdf?docID=4381
[quote]ADVANCEMENT UPDATE
Since the start of the 2023 fiscal year, $35.7 million has been
generously pledged or contributed
by more than 6,024 donors. Their investments in our students,
research, healthcare and
campus programs provide critical support, helping to elevate the
University.
Generous contributions since the last update include:
$2.6 million in gifts to the Pediatric Emergency Department
Expansion
$2.5 million pledge to the Stony Brook Athletics
Baseball/Softball Complex
$1.5 million planned gift for an Endowed Chair in the
Department of Sociology
$1.5 million pledge for PhD/Graduate Fellowships in the
Department of Chemistry
$1.5 million pledge to establish an Endowed Chair in the
Department of Obstetrics and
Gynecology
$500,000 in gifts and pledges to the Stony Brook Athletics
Mens Basketball program
$450,000 gift to the Staller Center for the Arts
$437,000 gift to the School of Dental Medicine to improve
access for pediatric oral
healthcare
$375,000 pledge to the School of Marine and Atmospheric
Sciences
$250,000 gift to the Math Department Distinguished Lecture in
Algebra and Algebraic
Geometry
$250,000 gift towards Renaissance School of Medicine
scholarship support
$230,000 gift towards STEM outreach programming
$200,000 gift to the Alan Alda Center for Communicating
Science
$200,000 in support of the Carol Baldwin Breast Cancer
Research fund
$200,000 gift to the Department of Pharmacology Laboratory of
Chemical Biology
$150,000 pledge to the Foodlab at Stony Brook Southampton
$105,000 gift to support the Garcia Center for Polymers in the
College of Engineering
and Applied Sciences
$100,000 gift to Stony Brook Athletics
$100,000 gift towards student scholarships in the Political
Science Department
$100,000 gift towards student scholarships in the Department
of Electrical Engineering[/quote]
#Post#: 39496--------------------------------------------------
Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
By: Chairman of the Board Date: March 28, 2023, 2:57 pm
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tuition hike???
[quote]
SUNY needs a tuition hike
Solve this problem: How can New York's public colleges and
universities continue to offer a quality education when a lack
of funding is causing them to reduce staff, increase class size
and delay new initiatives?
Gov. Kathy Hochul's solution is a tuition increase for students
from households earning more than $125,000. If the State
Legislature agrees, CUNY and most SUNY schools will likely enact
a 3% increase while the system's four university centers Stony
Brook, Albany, Buffalo and Binghamton would impose a 6% hike.
The annual hikes would be authorized for five years. It's tough
math but Hochul's answer is correct.
For New Yorkers, SUNY would still be a good deal. A combination
of TAP and Pell grants, along with Excelsior scholarships,
already cover the full tuition costs of 53% of SUNY students and
80% of CUNY enrollees, and those grants would increase to match
any tuition hikes.
The need for more revenue is especially acute for Stony Brook,
one of SUNY's two flagship universities. With 24,000 students
and a top medical center, it is making solid strides to place in
the top tier of the nation's public universities. Currently,
tuition at SBU is $7,070 a year. That's less that other top
state schools in the Northeast such as Rutgers (where tuition is
$12,900), the University of Connecticut ($15,772) and Penn State
($19,286). After five years of increases, SBU would still be
among the very lowest at $10,655.
The governor's budget proposal, tied to the inflation rate for
higher education, comes after a decade of little increase in
state operating aid and a tuition freeze since 2019. As a
result, facilities are worn down, laboratories are out of date,
and the ranks of professors and administrative staff have
shrunk. Most of SBU's buildings were built more than a
half-century ago; $1.8 billion in deferred maintenance awaits.
As college enrollments decrease nationwide, attendance at SUNY
schools would erode if their programs and campuses start to
decline.
While students are being asked to pay more, so are state
taxpayers. Hochuls budget proposal includes $400 million in new
funding for capital projects, $200 million to bolster IT
infrastructure and a $500 million pot for matching contributions
made to the four university centers. This first-of-its-kind
matching grant program can attract more support for the
important research being done at Stony Brook from biofuels and
batteries to hydrogen fuel and quantum internet technology.
The hikes come at a difficult financial time for many in this
unsettled economy. Hochul's proposal has been met with a
ferocious pushback from state legislators who not only oppose a
hike but unrealistically counter that CUNY and SUNY should be
free for all. With this small and predictable tuition increase,
these schools can continue to provide an excellent education and
ensure that their diplomas remain a valuable credential.
[/quote]
Stony Brook reacts to planned SUNY tuition increase
(HTM) https://www.sbstatesman.com/2023/03/28/stony-brook-reacts-to-planned-suny-tuition-increase/
Report: Stony Brook University Tuition Could Rise 51% in 5 Years
Under Executive Budget Proposal
(HTM) https://www.longisland.com/news/03-27-23/report-stony-brook-university-tuition-could-rise-51-in-5-years-under-executive-budget-proposal.html
#Post#: 39499--------------------------------------------------
Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
By: Hammertime Date: March 28, 2023, 8:10 pm
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[quote author=Chairman of the Board
link=topic=993.msg39496#msg39496 date=1680033436]
tuition hike???
[quote]
SUNY needs a tuition hike
Solve this problem: How can New York's public colleges and
universities continue to offer a quality education when a lack
of funding is causing them to reduce staff, increase class size
and delay new initiatives?
Gov. Kathy Hochul's solution is a tuition increase for students
from households earning more than $125,000. If the State
Legislature agrees, CUNY and most SUNY schools will likely enact
a 3% increase while the system's four university centers Stony
Brook, Albany, Buffalo and Binghamton would impose a 6% hike.
The annual hikes would be authorized for five years. It's tough
math but Hochul's answer is correct.
For New Yorkers, SUNY would still be a good deal. A combination
of TAP and Pell grants, along with Excelsior scholarships,
already cover the full tuition costs of 53% of SUNY students and
80% of CUNY enrollees, and those grants would increase to match
any tuition hikes.
The need for more revenue is especially acute for Stony Brook,
one of SUNY's two flagship universities. With 24,000 students
and a top medical center, it is making solid strides to place in
the top tier of the nation's public universities. Currently,
tuition at SBU is $7,070 a year. That's less that other top
state schools in the Northeast such as Rutgers (where tuition is
$12,900), the University of Connecticut ($15,772) and Penn State
($19,286). After five years of increases, SBU would still be
among the very lowest at $10,655.
The governor's budget proposal, tied to the inflation rate for
higher education, comes after a decade of little increase in
state operating aid and a tuition freeze since 2019. As a
result, facilities are worn down, laboratories are out of date,
and the ranks of professors and administrative staff have
shrunk. Most of SBU's buildings were built more than a
half-century ago; $1.8 billion in deferred maintenance awaits.
As college enrollments decrease nationwide, attendance at SUNY
schools would erode if their programs and campuses start to
decline.
While students are being asked to pay more, so are state
taxpayers. Hochuls budget proposal includes $400 million in new
funding for capital projects, $200 million to bolster IT
infrastructure and a $500 million pot for matching contributions
made to the four university centers. This first-of-its-kind
matching grant program can attract more support for the
important research being done at Stony Brook from biofuels and
batteries to hydrogen fuel and quantum internet technology.
The hikes come at a difficult financial time for many in this
unsettled economy. Hochul's proposal has been met with a
ferocious pushback from state legislators who not only oppose a
hike but unrealistically counter that CUNY and SUNY should be
free for all. With this small and predictable tuition increase,
these schools can continue to provide an excellent education and
ensure that their diplomas remain a valuable credential.
[/quote]
Stony Brook reacts to planned SUNY tuition increase
(HTM) https://www.sbstatesman.com/2023/03/28/stony-brook-reacts-to-planned-suny-tuition-increase/
Report: Stony Brook University Tuition Could Rise 51% in 5 Years
Under Executive Budget Proposal
(HTM) https://www.longisland.com/news/03-27-23/report-stony-brook-university-tuition-could-rise-51-in-5-years-under-executive-budget-proposal.html
[/quote]
My son is a senior at SBU and I pay a lot more then $7000 a year
for his school.
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
By: iBOsbu Date: March 29, 2023, 9:38 am
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Probably another $3-4k? Thats fees. Every student pays. Other
colleges also have fees in addition to tuition.
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
By: Chairman of the Board Date: April 24, 2023, 4:29 pm
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another thing that SB does wrong that others get right-
organizations not working towards a common goal.
(HTM) https://www.sbstatesman.com/2023/04/23/stony-brook-media-relations-has-a-troubled-history-with-student-media/
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
By: Chairman of the Board Date: April 24, 2023, 7:43 pm
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The state of the university: what McInnis has to say
(HTM) https://www.sbstatesman.com/2023/04/23/the-state-of-the-university-what-mcinnis-has-to-say/
[quote]
McInnis addressed the proposed 30% State University of New York
(SUNY) tuition increase, parking changes, the CulinArt
investigation, racist incidents on campus and other issues. The
Statesman, The Stony Brook Press, Black World and The Stony
Brook Media Group were in attendance.
Over the last 12 years, there have only been modest tuition
increases, McInnis said. It means that we have had to pay for
inflationary costs, the most significant of which are the
contracted salary increases that are negotiated by the state and
mandatory that we pay.
The increase still leaves Stony Brook thousands of dollars
cheaper than in-state tuition of surrounding states, McInnis
said.
[/quote]
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Re: Making SB better- Idea Thread 2.0
By: Chairman of the Board Date: May 4, 2023, 10:38 pm
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really good to see the roth regatta is still going strong:
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLeEyuc95Nw&t=138s
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