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       How Old Is Chinese Civilization?
       By: guest78 Date: July 1, 2022, 12:39 am
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       How Old Is Chinese Civilization? - Ancient Civilizations
       DOCUMENTARY
       [quote]The Kings and Generals animated historical documentary
       series on the ancient civilizations continues with a video on
       the Shang and Zhou dynasties, as we try to deduce ho old Chinese
       civilization is.[/quote]
 (HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BXpsbSQFKg
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       Re: Turanian diffusion
       By: antihellenistic Date: April 10, 2024, 9:30 am
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       Fellow "Turanians" proud on their Cruelty
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       Re: How Old Is Chinese Civilization?
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 10, 2024, 3:21 pm
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       Imperialism =/= colonialism. Chinese imperialism was
       consistently integrationist throughout history:
 (HTM) https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/yandi-vs-huangdi-myth-confirmed/msg17310/#msg17310
       in contrast to Western colonial empires. The mainstream
       "academics" criticized by Duchesne for praising the non-Western
       ancient empires (as well as Roman) understand this. Duchesne
       does not, nor does the tweeter he is quoting. You yourself seem
       confused about this.
       See also:
 (HTM) https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-folkish-imperialism/
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       Re: Arctic alliance
       By: antihellenistic Date: May 2, 2024, 12:17 am
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       Evolution of Northern Turanism, Adopting Western Civilization
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       Re: Re: Arctic alliance
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 2, 2024, 2:01 am
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       Engineering =/= machinism. Ancient Chinese were good at
       engineering in the sense of infrastructure:
 (HTM) https://news.wef.org/discovering-an-ancient-hydraulic-system-rewrites-chinese-engineering-history/
       (See also:
 (HTM) https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/aryan-hydraulic-empire/<br
       />)
       but this has nothing to do with machines which is what the
       illiterate enemy tweeter is incorrectly using the term
       "engineering" to refer to. Ancient Turanians, in contrast, did
       not bother with long-term infrastructure due to their nomadism.
       Engineering helped defend against Turanian raiders since
       prehistory:
 (HTM) https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/aryan-fortifications/msg3132/#msg3132
       and of course later:
 (HTM) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Wall_of_China
       [quote]The Great Wall of China (traditional Chinese:
       &#33836;&#37324;&#38263;&#22478;; simplified Chinese:
       &#19975;&#37324;&#38271;&#22478;; pinyin: Wànl&#464; Chángchéng,
       literally "ten thousand li long wall") is a series of
       fortifications that were built across the historical northern
       borders of ancient Chinese states and Imperial China as
       protection against various nomadic groups from the Eurasian
       Steppe. Several walls were built from as early as the 7th
       century BC,[4] with selective stretches later joined by Qin Shi
       Huang (220–206 BC), the first emperor of China.[/quote]
       Engineering:
       [quote]Before the use of bricks, the Great Wall was mainly built
       from rammed earth[/quote]
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 (HTM) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rammed_earth#Characteristics
       [quote]Edifices of rammed earth are more sustainable and
       environmentally friendly than other building techniques that use
       more cement and other chemicals. Because rammed-earth edifices
       use locally available materials, they usually have low embodied
       energy and generate very little waste.[citation needed] The
       soils used are typically subsoil which conserve the topsoil for
       agriculture. When the soil excavated in preparation for a
       foundation can be used, the cost and energy consumption of
       transportation are minimal.[8] Rammed earth is probably the
       least environmentally detrimental construction material and
       technique that is readily and commercially available today to
       construct solid edifices. [citation needed] Rammed earth has
       potentially low manufacturing impact, contingent on the amount
       of cement and the amount that is locally sourced; it is often
       quarried aggregates rather than "earth".
       Rammed earth can contribute to the overall energy efficiency of
       edifices: the density, thickness, and thermal conductivity of
       rammed earth render it an especially suitable material for
       passive solar heating. Warmth requires almost 12 hours to be
       conducted through a wall 35 cm (14 in) thick.[6]
       Mixing cement with the soil can counteract sustainable benefits
       such as low embodied energy because manufacture of the cement
       itself creates 1.25 tonnes of carbon dioxide per tonne of cement
       produced.[9] Although it has low greenhouse gas emissions in
       theory, transportation and the production of cement can add
       significantly[quantify] to the overall emissions of modern
       rammed earth construction.[/quote]
       Superior Aryan alternative to cement:
 (HTM) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticky_rice_mortar
       [quote]Around 500 CE, sticky rice soup was mixed with slaked
       lime to make an inorganic&#8722;organic composite mortar that
       had more strength and water resistance than lime mortar.[1][2]
       Sticky rice played a major role in maintaining the durability of
       the Great Wall, as well as tombs, pagodas, and city walls.[3]
       Sticky rice mortar had high adhesive strength, sturdiness,
       waterproofing capability, and prevented weeds from growing as
       crude mortar made of sticky rice and burnt lime created a seal
       between bricks that would rival modern cement in strength.
       ...
       Great Wall sections were widely built with bricks, with lime
       mortar and sticky rice used to reinforce the bricks strongly
       enough to resist earthquakes and modern bulldozers while keeping
       the building intact.[/quote]
       Regressive engineering FTW!
       See also:
 (HTM) https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dress-decolonization/msg13140/#msg13140<br
       />(part about buttons)
 (HTM) https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dress-decolonization/msg13158/#msg13158
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       Re: How Old Is Chinese Civilization?
       By: rp Date: May 2, 2024, 2:26 am
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       Civil Engineering is the original engineering field. All other
       fields (mechanical, chemical, metallurgical, electrical,
       electronics, and computer) should have and would have never
       existed without western civilization. Even mechanical is fine so
       long as it is making automatons and not machinery (industrial
       revolution), but all the other fields are superfluous.
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