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Western civilization = sustainable evil
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 3, 2020, 12:20 am
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OLD CONTENT
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bwZPIzuug
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kICS32kady4
Rightists frequently talk about how non-Western civilizations
"hunted N species to extinction". Indeed they did, but perhaps
they ended up inadvertently doing all those species a favour by
making them extinct before Western civilization could get its
sustainable hands on them and keep them going endlessly to be
hunted over and over again for the pleasure of Westerners, with
no possibility of escape*.
Truly, Westerners are created in the image of Yahweh.
(* Unless, of course, Western civilization itself dies. Which is
what we are here to ensure.)
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Even caviar has been made sustainable:
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKqwBzQFRws
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQWeO5wMekQ
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Let's remind ourselves about egg factories, courtesy of Western
civilization:
[attachimg=1]
(HTM) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intensive_animal_farming#History
[quote]The discovery of antibiotics and vaccines facilitated
raising livestock in larger numbers by reducing disease.
Chemicals developed for use in World War II gave rise to
synthetic pesticides.
...
The major milestone in 20th century poultry production was the
discovery of vitamin D, which made it possible to keep chickens
in confinement year-round. Before this, chickens did not thrive
during the winter (due to lack of sunlight), and egg production,
incubation, and meat production in the off-season were all very
difficult, making poultry a seasonal and expensive proposition.
...
At the same time, egg production was increased by scientific
breeding. After a few false starts, (such as the Maine
Experiment Station's failure at improving egg production)
success was shown by Professor Dryden at the Oregon Experiment
Station.[21]
...
In 1900, average egg production was 83 eggs per hen per year. In
2000, it was well over 300.[/quote]
Many things are not meant to be discovered. But Westerners do
not care about this. And it is their victims who have to live
with the consequences:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_cage
[quote]Original battery cages extended the technology used in
battery brooders, which were cages with a wire mesh floor and
integral heating elements for brooding chicks. The wire floor
allowed the manure to pass through, removing it from the chicks'
environment and reducing the risk of manure-borne diseases.
Early battery cages were often used for selecting hens based on
performance, since it is easy to track how many eggs each hen is
laying if only one hen is placed in a cage. Later, this was
combined with artificial insemination, giving a technique where
each egg's parentage is known. This method is still used
today.[/quote]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick_culling
[quote]Chick culling is the process of killing newly hatched
poultry for which the industry has no use. It occurs in all
industrialised egg production whether free range, organic, or
battery cage—including that of the UK and US. Because male
chickens do not lay eggs and only those on breeding programmes
are required to fertilise eggs, they are considered redundant to
the egg-laying industries and are usually killed shortly after
being sexed, which occurs after they hatch.[1] Many methods of
culling do not involve anaesthetics and include cervical
dislocation, asphyxiation by carbon dioxide and maceration using
a high speed grinder.
...
Prior to the development of modern broiler meat breeds, most
male chickens (cockerels) were slaughtered for meat, whereas
females (pullets) would be kept for egg production. However,
once[when?] the industry bred separate meat and egg-producing
hybrids, there was no reason to keep males of the egg-producing
hybrid. As a consequence, the males of egg-laying chickens are
killed as soon as possible after hatching and sexing to reduce
losses incurred by the breeder. Special techniques have been
developed to accurately determine the sex of chicks at as young
an age as possible.
As of 2018, worldwide around 7 billion day-old male chicks were
culled per year in the egg industry.[1]
Chicks are also culled in the production of foie gras. After
hatching, the ducklings are sexed. Males put on more weight than
females, so the females are killed, sometimes in an industrial
macerator. Up to 40 million female ducks per year may be killed
in this way. The remains of female ducklings are later used in
cat food, fertilisers and in the pharmaceutical industry.[5]
...
Several methods are used to cull chicks:
Maceration; the chicks are placed into a large high-speed
grinder.[2]
Cervical dislocation; the neck is broken.
Electrocution; an electric current is passed through the chick's
body until it is dead.[6]
Suffocation; the chicks are placed in plastic bags.[7]
Gases or gas mixtures; carbon dioxide is used to induce
unconsciousness and then death.[2][/quote]
But the culled chicks are the lucky ones compared to those kept
alive:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debeaking
[quote]Debeaking is the partial removal of the beak of poultry,
especially layer hens and turkeys although it may also be
performed on quail and ducks. Most commonly, the beak is
shortened permanently, although regrowth can occur. The trimmed
lower beak is somewhat longer than the upper beak.
Beak trimming is most common in egg-laying strains of chickens.
... Beak trimming is a preventive measure to reduce damage
caused by injurious pecking such as cannibalism, feather pecking
and vent pecking, and thereby improve livability.[2]
...
Opponents of beak trimming state that the practice reduces
problem pecking by minor amounts compared to the trauma, injury,
and harm done to the entire flock by beak trimming.
...
In close confinement, cannibalism, feather pecking and
aggression are common among turkeys, ducks, pheasants, quail,
and chickens of many breeds (including both heritage breeds and
modern hybrids) kept for eggs.
...
Beak trimming was developed at the Ohio Experiment Station in
the 1930s.[10] The original technique was temporary, cutting
approximately 6 mm (1/4 inch) off the beak. It was thought that
the tip of the beak had no blood supply and presumably no
sensation. The procedure was performed by hand with a sharp
knife, either when deaths due to cannibalism became excessive,
or when the problem was anticipated because of a history of
cannibalism in the particular strain of chicken.
Cannibalism is a serious management problem dating back to the
periods before intensive housing of poultry became popular.
Poultry books written before vertical integration of the poultry
industry describe the abnormal pecking of poultry:
Chicks and adult birds' picking at each other until blood shows
and then destroying one another by further picking is a source
of great loss in many flocks, especially when kept in
confinement .... The recommendation of the Ohio Experiment
Station of cutting back the tip of the upper beak has been found
to be effective until the beak grows out again.[11]
Cannibalism has two peaks in the life of a chicken; during the
brooding period and at the onset of egg laying. The point-of-lay
cannibalism is generally the most damaging and gets most of the
attention. The temporary beak trimming developed at the Ohio
Experiment Station assumed that cannibalism was a phase, and
that blunting the beak temporarily would be adequate.
...
In recent years, the aim has been to develop more permanent beak
trimming (although repeat trimming may be required), using
electrically heated blades in a beak trimming machine, to
provide a self-cauterizing cut. There are currently (2012) four
widely used methods of beak trimming: hot blade, cold blade
(including scissors or secateurs), electrical (the Bio-beaker)
and infrared. The latter two methods usually remove only the tip
of the beak and do not leave an open wound, therefore they may
offer improvements in welfare. Other approaches such as the use
of lasers, freeze drying and chemical retardation have been
investigated but are not in widespread use.[12] The infrared
method directs a strong source of heat into the inner tissue of
the beak and after a few weeks, the tip of the upper and lower
beak dies and drops off making the beak shorter with blunt tips.
The Bio-beaker, which uses an electric current to burn a small
hole in the upper beak, is the preferred method for trimming the
beaks of turkeys.[13] The Farm Animal Welfare Council (FAWC)
wrote regarding beak trimming of turkeys that cold cutting was
the most accurate method, but that substantial re-growth of the
beak occurred; although the Bio-beaker limited beak re-growth,
it was less accurate. It was considered that the hot cut was the
most distressing procedure for turkeys.[1]
In the UK, beak trimming of layer hens normally occurs at 1-day
of age at the same time as the chick is being sexed and
vaccinated.
...
The costs of beak trimming relate primarily to welfare concerns.
These include acute stress, and acute, possibly chronic, pain
following trimming. A bird’s ability to consume food is impaired
following beak trimming because of the new beak shape and pain.
Most studies report reduced body weights and feed intake
following beak trimming
...
Beak trimming in the poultry industry usually occurs without
anaesthetic at 1-day of age or when the chicks are very young,
but can occur at a later age if an outbreak of feather pecking
occurs, and in some cases, birds may be beak trimmed on repeated
occasions.
...
The beak is a complex, functional organ with an extensive
nervous supply including nociceptors that sense pain and noxious
stimuli.[23][24] These would almost certainly be stimulated
during beak trimming, indicating strongly that acute pain would
be experienced. Behavioural evidence of pain after beak trimming
in layer hen chicks has been based on the observed reduction in
pecking behavior, reduced activity and social behavior, and
increased sleep duration.[25][26][27][28] In Japanese quail,
beak-trimming by cauterization caused lower body weights and
feed intake in the period just after beak trimming.[20] Beak
trimmed Muscovy ducks spent less time engaging in beak-related
behaviours (preening, feeding, drinking, exploratory pecking)
and more time resting than non-trimmed ducks in the days
immediately post-trim.
...
Severe beak trimming, or beak trimming birds at an older age is
thought to cause chronic pain. Following beak trimming of older
or adult hens, the nociceptors in the beak stump show abnormal
patterns of neural discharge, which indicate acute
pain.[23][32][33][34] Neuromas, tangled masses of swollen
regenerating axon sprouts,[35] are found in the healed stumps of
birds beak trimmed at 5 weeks of age or older and in severely
beak trimmed birds.[36] Neuromas have been associated with
phantom pain in human amputees and have therefore been linked to
chronic pain in beak trimmed birds.[/quote]
[quote]It has been shown that domestic hens have iron mineral
deposits in the dendrites in the upper beak and are capable of
magnetoreception.[34][35] Because hens use directional
information from the magnetic field of the earth to orient in
relatively small areas, this raises the possibility that
beak-trimming impairs the ability of hens to orient in extensive
systems, or move in and out of buildings in free-range
systems.[36]
A further negative aspect of beak-trimming is that it leaves
birds less able to groom themselves effectively, thus
beak-trimmed hens have greater ectoparasite burdens than hens
with intact beaks.[37][/quote]
[quote]At approximately 16 weeks of age, pullets (hens which
have not yet started to lay) are placed into cages. In countries
with relevant legislation, floor space for battery cages ranges
upwards from 300 cm2 per bird. EU standards in 2003 called for
at least 550 cm2 per hen.[30] In the US, the current
recommendation by the United Egg Producers is 67 to 86 in2 (430
to 560 cm2) per bird.[31] The space available to each hen in a
battery cage has often been described as less than the size of a
sheet of A4 paper (624 cm2).[32] Others have commented that a
typical cage is about the size of a filing cabinet drawer and
holds eight to 10 hens.[13][33]
Behavioural studies showed that when turning, hens used 540 to
1006 cm2, when stretching wings 653 to 1118 cm2, when wing
flapping 860 to 1980 cm2, when feather ruffling 676 to 1604 cm2,
when preening 814 to 1240 cm2, and when ground scratching 540 to
1005 cm2.[34] A space allowance of 550 cm2 would prevent hens in
battery cages from performing these behaviours without touching
another hen. Animal welfare scientists have been critical of
battery cages because of these space restrictions[35] and it is
widely considered that hens suffer boredom and frustration when
unable to perform these behaviours.[36] Spatial restriction can
lead to a wide range of abnormal behaviours, some of which are
injurious to the hens or their cagemates.
...
To reduce the harmful effects of feather pecking, cannibalism
and vent-pecking, hens in battery cages (and other housing
systems) are often kept at low light intensities (e.g. less than
10 lux). Low light intensities may be associated with welfare
costs to the hens as they prefer to eat in brightly lit
environments[37] and prefer brightly lit areas for active
behaviour but dim (less than 10 lux) for inactive behaviour.[38]
Dimming the lights can also cause problems when the intensity is
then abruptly increased temporarily to inspect the hens; this
has been associated as a risk factor of increased feather
pecking[39] and the birds can become frightened resulting in
panic-type ("hysteria") reactions which can increase the risk of
injury.
Being indoors, hens in battery cages do not see sunlight. Whilst
there is no scientific evidence for this being a welfare
problem, some animal advocates indicate it is a concern.[40][41]
Furnished cages and some other non-cage indoor systems would
also prevent hens seeing natural light throughout their
lives.[/quote]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feather_pecking#Light_manipulations
[quote]In turkeys, low light intensities (perhaps in combination
with long light phases) can cause retinal detachment and
buphthalmia, a distortion of the eye morphology that can lead to
blindness.[42][43][/quote]
[quote]Several studies have indicated that toward the end of the
laying phase (approximately 72 weeks of age), a combination of
high calcium demand for egg production and a lack of exercise
can lead to osteoporosis. This can occur in all housing systems
for egg laying hens, but is particularly prevalent in battery
cage systems where it has sometimes been called 'cage layer
osteoporosis'.[42] Osteoporosis leads to the skeleton becoming
fragile and an increased risk of bone breakage, particularly in
the legs and keel bone. Fractures may occur whilst the hens are
in the cage and these are usually discovered at depopulation as
old, healed breaks, or they might be fresh breaks which occurred
during the process of depopulation.[/quote]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_molting
[quote]Forced molting, sometimes known as induced molting, is
the practice by some poultry industries of artificially
provoking a flock to molt simultaneously, typically by
withdrawing food for 7–14 days and sometimes also withdrawing
water for an extended period. Forced molting is usually
implemented when egg-production is naturally decreasing toward
the end of the first egg-laying phase. During the forced molt,
the birds cease producing eggs for at least two weeks, which
allows the bird's reproductive tracts to regress and rejuvenate.
After the molt, the hen's egg production rate usually peaks
slightly lower than the previous peak, but egg quality is
improved. The purpose of forced molting is therefore to increase
egg production, egg quality, and profitability of flocks in
their second or subsequent laying phases, by not allowing the
hen's body the necessary time to rejuvenate during the natural
cycle of feather replenishment.
...
Commercial hens usually begin laying eggs at 16–20 weeks of age,
although production gradually declines soon after from
approximately 25 weeks of age.[2] This means that in many
countries, by approximately 72 weeks of age, flocks are
considered economically unviable and are slaughtered after
approximately 12 months of egg production,[3] although chickens
will naturally live for 6 or more years. However, in some
countries, rather than being slaughtered, the hens are force
molted to re-invigorate egg-laying for a second, and sometimes
subsequent, laying phase.
Forced molting simulates the natural process where chickens grow
a new set of feathers in the Autumn, a process generally
accompanied by a sharp reduction or cessation of egg production.
Natural molting is stimulated by shortening day lengths combined
with stress (of any kind). Before confinement housing with
artificial lights was the norm, the Autumn molt caused a
seasonal scarcity of eggs and high market prices. Farmers
attempted to pamper their flocks to prevent the molt as long as
possible, to take advantage of the high prices. Modern
controlled-environment confinement housing has the opposite
problem; the hens are not normally presented with sufficient
stress or cues to go into molt naturally. However, after laying
almost daily for nearly a year, their rate of egg production
declines, as does the quality of the eggshell and the egg
contents. In addition, the hens are overweight.[citation needed]
It is sometimes claimed that forced molting is an artifact of
modern intensive farming, but the practice predates the vertical
integration of the poultry industry by decades; former Head of
the Poultry Science Department at the University of Maryland,
Morley A. Jull prescribes a precise molting program in his 1938
book, Poultry Husbandry.[4]
...
For a complete recovery of the reproductive tract, the hen's
body weight must drop by 30 to 35 percent during the forced
molt. This is typically achieved by withdrawing the hen's feed
for 7–14 days, sometimes up to 28 days.[5] This induces the
birds to lose their feathers, cease to lay eggs and lose
body-weight.[6][7] Some programs combine feed withdrawal with a
period of water withdrawal. Most programs also restrict the
amount of lighting to provide a daylight period that is too
short to stimulate egg production, providing a simulated autumn,
the natural time of molt and minimum egg production.[/quote]
Remember: Westerners are created in the image of Yahweh.
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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 3, 2020, 12:28 am
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OLD CONTENT contd.
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Now the neocons are complaining that "non-whites" do not enjoy
hands-on violence against animals enough:
themeateater.com/hunt/big-game/is-hunting-too-white
[quote]Whether you see a hunter sitting in a treestand,
crouching in a duck blind or bugling bulls on a mountainside,
you can predict something with 91% certainty: You’re looking at
a white guy of European stock.
You can also bet the guy has rural or small-town roots, and that
he and his buddies are more passionate about hunting than any
other demographic group sociologists can identify by race or
ethnic heritage. In fact, researchers at universities and
wildlife agencies have been documenting those details with
little variance for decades.
...
In the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service’s most recent
participation study of hunting, fishing and wildlife watching,
the agency found 11.5 million Americans hunted at least once in
2016. Of those hunters, 11.1 million—96%—were white and 3% were
Hispanic. Blacks and Asians made up most of the remaining 1%,
but at levels too low to pinpoint participation rates.
...
“Our studies and other researchers’ surveys of African Americans
consistently find that hunting and other outdoor recreation just
isn’t part of their families’ heritage,” Duda said. “If it truly
takes a hunter to make a hunter, the challenges look daunting.
Few African-American families include someone to pass down a
hunting tradition.”[/quote]
This is a good thing! They should be proud of it! Instead they
are being shamed for it by Westerners.
[quote]“We need more inclusiveness,” Dillard said. “If you’re a
black hunter, and you watch TV hunting shows, or pick up an
outdoors magazine or catalog, you feel intimidated when no one
looks like you. The hunting industry has done a wonderful job
including women and children, but I sense discomfort about
including people of color.” John Annoni, founder and director of
a hunting/conservation program in Allentown, Pennsylvania, has
introduced over 6,500 urban students in grades 5 through 12 to
outdoor activities since launching Camp Compass in 1994. The
program helps students learn about conservation, outdoor careers
and hunters’ philosophies.
Annoni said he wants students to learn to love the outdoors so
much that no contrary attitude deters them from hunting, fishing
and other outdoor recreation.
“I get to see a rainbow every day because I see a plethora of
kids who never had a chance to hunt, but now want to hunt and
like to hunt,” Annoni said. “But we can’t do it alone, and no
company or organization can hire one outreach person and think
they’ll reach all people of color. The ‘inclusive’ piece is
still often missing from the puzzle.”
Annoni also said hunters shouldn’t be quick to congratulate
themselves for taking their own kids hunting. “Taking your child
hunting is your obligation,” he said. “You can’t pat yourself on
the back for something you should be doing. We need long-term
programs where hunters work as hard for kids as they do for
habitat, elk, deer, ducks or turkeys. When we see two black kids
hunting with three white kids on TV and on weekend hunts, that’s
when we’ll start breaking down the fears and stereotypes that
hold things back.”[/quote]
OK, who wants to hunt Annoni?
Related:
www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/042549v1
[quote]Vegans rely almost exclusively on endogenous synthesis to
generate LCPUFA and we hypothesized that an adaptive genetic
polymorphism would confer advantage. The rs66698963
polymorphism, a 22 bp insertion-deletion within FADS2, is
associated with basal FADS1 expression, and coordinated
induction of FADS1 and FADS2 in vitro. ... Analysis using 1000
Genomes Project data confirmed our observation, revealing a
global I/I genotype of 70% in South Asians, 53% in Africans, 29%
in East Asians, and 17% in Europeans. Tests based on population
divergence, site frequency spectrum and long-range haplotype
consistently point to positive selection encompassing rs66698963
in South Asian, African and some East Asian populations.[/quote]
You think maybe this has something to do with it?
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I might as well repost these pictures of Western civilization:
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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 3, 2020, 12:41 am
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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 3, 2020, 12:43 am
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OLD CONTENT contd.
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www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/git-r-done-trump-o
pens-1-4-million-federal-acres-to-hunters-anglers
[quote]“He’s basically said, ‘Git-R-Done,'” said Interior
Secretary David Bernhardt, who is spearheading the opening of
1.4 million acres and elimination of 7,500 regulations limiting
access.
“The president fundamentally gets that hunters and anglers are
the true conservationists in our society. He understands that
history and that we need to act in efforts to expand hunting and
fishing while at the same time being respectful of private land
rights, respectful of state law,” added Bernhardt.
...
“Having those opportunities to succeed and fail made me more
confident and made me more willing to accept challenges,” said
Bernhardt. “If I lived somewhere where my parents had to drive
300 miles for me to hunt or fish, it wouldn’t have happened at
all, though that might have been a lot better for my grades."
When he had young children in his first tour at Interior under
former President George W. Bush, then-Secretary Dirk Kempthorne
advised him to get a boat.
“He said, ‘You need to get a boat. The great thing about a boat,
if you get your kids on one, even if they are with their
friends, they’re stuck with you,'” Bernhardt recalled. And now,
he added, his kids are hooked on the outdoors. “Exposure
matters,” said the secretary, whose office sports a huge moose
skull and antlers from an Alaska hunt.[/quote]
(What is this obsession with getting kids to hunt/fish?)
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www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/jeremy-hunt-pledges-to-scrap-fox-h
unting-ban-claiming-illegal-practice-is-part-of-our-heritage/ar-
AADOPzm
[quote]Conservative leadership hopeful Jeremy Hunt has pledged
to bring back fox hunting if he becomes Britain’s next prime
minister.
The foreign secretary said the illegal practice was an important
part of the countryside’s “heritage”, as he appealed to Tory
members still to decide whether to vote for him or rival Boris
Johnson.
A ban on fox hunting and other wild mammals was implemented in
England and Wales in 2004 with legislation introduced by Tony
Blair’s Labour government.
“I would vote to repeal the ban on fox hunting,” Mr Hunt told
the Telegraph. “I would as soon as there was a majority in
parliament that would be likely to repeal the fox hunting ban,
then I would support a vote in parliament.”
“It is part of the countryside,” he added. “And we have to
recognise that in terms of the balance of the countryside. You
know, it’s part of our heritage.”[/quote]
Yes, it is part of your heritage. This means your heritage is
the problem.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_hunting
[quote]Fox hunting with hounds, as a formalised activity,
originated in England in the sixteenth century
...
the earliest known attempt to hunt a fox with hounds was in
Norfolk, England, in 1534, where farmers began chasing foxes
down with their dogs for the purpose of pest control.[10] The
first use of packs specifically trained to hunt foxes was in the
late 1600s, with the oldest fox hunt being, probably, the
Bilsdale in Yorkshire.[12]
By the end of the seventeenth century, deer hunting was in
decline. The Inclosure Acts brought fences to separate formerly
open land into many smaller fields, deer forests were being cut
down, and arable land was increasing.[13] With the onset of the
Industrial Revolution, people began to move out of the country
and into towns and cities to find work. Roads, railway lines,
and canals all split hunting countries,[14] but at the same time
they made hunting accessible to more people. Shotguns were
improved during the nineteenth century and the shooting of
gamebirds became more popular.[13] Fox hunting developed further
in the eighteenth century when Hugo Meynell developed breeds of
hound and horse to address the new geography of rural
England.[13]
In Germany, hunting with hounds (which tended to be deer or boar
hunting) was first banned on the initiative of Hermann Göring on
July 3, 1934.[15] In 1939, the ban was extended to cover Austria
after Germany's annexation of the country. Bernd Ergert, the
director of Germany's hunting museum in Munich, said of the ban,
"The aristocrats were understandably furious, but they could do
nothing about the ban given the totalitarian nature of the
regime."[15]
...
The hunt is often the setting for many social rituals, but the
hunting itself begins when hounds are "cast" or put into rough
or brushy areas called "coverts", where foxes often lay up
during daylight hours. If the pack manages to pick up the scent
of a fox, they will track it for as long as they are able.
Scenting can be affected by temperature, humidity, and other
factors. The hounds pursue the trail of the fox and the riders
follow, by the most direct route possible.
Since this may involve very athletic skill on the part of horse
and rider alike, fox hunting is the origin of traditional
equestrian sports including steeplechase[74] and point to point
racing.[75]
The hunt continues until either the fox evades the hounds, goes
to ground (that is takes refuge in an underground burrow or den)
or is overtaken and usually killed by the hounds. In the case of
Scottish hill packs or the gun packs of Wales and upland areas
of England, the fox is flushed to guns. Foxhound packs in the
Cumbrian fells and other upland areas are followed by supporters
on foot rather than on horseback. In the UK, where the fox goes
to ground, terriers may be entered into the earth to locate the
fox so that it can be dug down to and shot.[1]
Social rituals are important to hunts, although many have fallen
into disuse. One of the most notable was the act of blooding.
This is a very old ceremony in which the master or huntsman
would smear the blood of the fox or coyote onto the cheeks or
forehead of a newly initiated hunt follower, often a young
child.[76][/quote]
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phys.org/news/2019-08-trump-administration-re-authorizes-cyanide
-wildlife.html
[quote]Trump administration re-authorizes 'cyanide bombs' to
kill wildlife
...
The devices, known as M-44s, which are implanted in the ground
and resemble lawn sprinklers, use a spring-loaded ejector to
release sodium cyanide when an animal tugs on its baited capsule
holder.
...
According to government data, M-44s killed 6,579 animals in
2018, including more than 200 "nontarget" animals including
opossums raccoons, skunks and a bear.
"These numbers probably significantly under-estimate the true
death toll since Wildlife Services is notorious for poor data
collection and an entrenched 'shoot, shovel, shut up'
mentality,"[/quote]
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(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WtJHbnJrfw
When did the rhinos involved (let alone the unborn rhino
children) ever consent to any of this? But of course Westerners
do not care about initiating violence against the individuals,
only about preserving the species for future Western enjoyment.
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www.huffpost.com/entry/wild-hog-texas-golf-course_n_5d826b7ae4b0
849d47225819
[quote]
Walton and his Lone Star Trapping team used dogs to corral the
animal at Gateway Hills Golf Course on Sept. 12. He then
wrestled it to the ground and hog-tied it.
He nicknamed the hog “Big Nuts” because, you know.
The hog was taken to a processing plant. Walton kept its head
“for a keepsake,” he said.
His picture with the animal has gone viral.
“I’ve been doing this out of sight and out of mind for so long,”
he told HuffPost. “Now everybody gets to see what we’re doing
finally.”
The state is trying to curb its feral hog population.[/quote]
Compare with previous post. When a species is low in number,
proudly force animals to reproduce. When a species is high in
number, just as proudly hunt animals down. This is Western
civilization - the [s]torture chamber from which there is no
escape[/s] civilization of sustainability.
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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 3, 2020, 12:52 am
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OLD CONTENT contd.
www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/09/invasive-fish-brea
the-air-survive-land-georgia/3925881002/
[quote]'Kill it immediately'
...
An invasive fish has been marked for death in Georgia.
The Georgia Department of Natural Resources' Wildlife Resources
Division confirmed someone found a northern snakehead in a pond
on private property in Gwinnett County, marking the first time
the invasive fish has been found in the state, according to the
DNR.
The department's advice for what Georgia residents should do
upon finding a northern snakehead, which can breathe air, is
simple. First, residents should not release the fish. Secondly,
"Kill it immediately (remember, it can survive on land) and
freeze it."
Fishermen who find a northern snakehead should take pictures,
note where it was caught and then report it, the Georgia DNR
said in a statement.
“Our first line of defense in the fight against aquatic invasive
species, such as the northern snakehead, are our anglers,” Matt
Thomas, chief of fisheries for the Wildlife Resources Division,
said in a statement.
“Thanks to the quick report by an angler, our staff was able to
investigate and confirm the presence of this species in this
water body. We are now taking steps to determine if they have
spread from this water body and, hopefully, keep it from
spreading to other Georgia waters," Thomas said.[/quote]
Why? Because otherwise they might lead to the extinction of
other fish species that anglers enjoy fishing. (It is for this
reason that they are called an "invasive species" according to
Western terminology. Meanwhile, the species - humans - that
cruelly exploits any and all animals in the world it wants is
not an "invasive species" so long as the exploited species are
kept from extinction. Because, in the Western worldview, only
species matter and individuals do not.)
[attachimg=1]
In other words, for the sustainability of anglers' recreational
pleasure (and innocent fish's suffering), the following must be
done to these special fish with superpowers (air breathing) who
could put a merciful end to it all:
[attachimg=2]
Anglers are the ones who should be killed immediately. (Look at
the angler's facial expression and pose. You are looking at
Western civilization personified.)
---
Further on the topic of so-called (according to Westerners)
"invasive species", here is a video that highlights the contrast
in perspectives:
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_ViOLgvsuY
The locals' attitude is the correct one. Species going extinct
is fine; violence against innocent individuals (in this case
hippos) is what is morally repugnant. Only Westerners justify
the latter on the grounds of preventing the former. Rightists
are entirely correct when they point out that conservationism
(ie. prevention of species extinction) is a uniquely Western
concern.
(I also find it amusing how much more physically neotenous is
the local guy being interviewed (representing the non-Western
perspective) than are the presenter and the biologist
(representing the Western perspective) with their huge facial
hair areas etc..)
---
Right wing “environmentalism”:
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFOmx2CpwuU
Note: I absolutely support using the term “naturalism” to
describe this ideology, in accordance with the host’s own
preference of using the word to refer to himself.
---
www.huffpost.com/entry/russian-circus-bear-attacks_n_5db2cfd3e4b
0ea02257c45a4
[quote]A bear in a Russian circus turned on its trainer during a
show this week and was subdued with a stun gun, adding to the
argument that wild animals shouldn’t be used for entertainment.
The 660-pound brown bear and handler Ruslan Solodyuk of the
traveling Anshlag circus were doing a routine in Olonets
involving a wheelbarrow when the muzzled bear pounced on him,
NBC News reported Friday. With no barrier between the audience
and the unfolding attack, spectators shrieked and could be seen
fleeing in the video, above.
The bear pinned the trainer for a few seconds before another
handler kicked the animal repeatedly and zapped it with a stun
gun, The New York Times reported.
...
Solodyuk told a Russian outlet that the bear, named Yashka, was
not feeling well before the attack, but had not been violent
before.
Many Russian circuses continue to ignore objections raised by
animal activists over their use of bears for entertainment, the
Times wrote.
In a June 2018 incident, a bear in a traveling circus jumped off
its skateboard and attacked a staffer during a performance.
Handlers beat the bear with sticks.[/quote]
The circus is a Western invention (repost):
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Astley
[quote]Philip Astley (8 January 1742 – 27 January 1814) was an
English equestrian, circus owner, and inventor, regarded as
being the "father of the modern circus".[1][2] Modern circus, as
an integrated entertainment experience that includes music,
domesticated animals, acrobats, and clowns, traces its heritage
to Astley's Amphitheatre, a riding school that Astley founded in
London following the success of trick-riding displays given by
him and his wife Patty Jones in 1768.[3] Astley's first
competitor was equestrian Charles Hughes, who had previously
worked with Astley. Together with Charles Dibdin, a famous
author of pantomimes, Hughes opened a rival amphitheatre in
London, which Dibdin called the Royal Circus and Equestrian
Philharmonic Academy.[4][5][/quote]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circus#Animal_acts
[quote]Animal rights groups have documented many cases of animal
cruelty in the training of performing circus animals.[40][41]
The animal rights group People for the Ethical Treatment of
Animals (PETA) contends that animals in circuses are frequently
beaten into submission and that physical abuse has always been
the method for training circus animals.
...
According to PETA, although the US Animal Welfare Act does not
permit any sort of punishment that puts the animals in
discomfort,[42] trainers will still go against this law and use
such things as electric rods and bull hooks.[43] According to
PETA, during an undercover investigation of Carson & Barnes
Circus, video footage was captured showing animal care director
Tim Frisco training endangered Asian elephants with electrical
shock prods and instructing other trainers to "beat the
elephants with a bullhook as hard as they can and sink the sharp
metal hook into the elephant's flesh and twist it until they
scream in pain".[43]
...
In testimony in U.S. District Court in 2009, Ringling Bros. and
Barnum & Bailey Circus CEO Kenneth Feld acknowledged that circus
elephants are struck behind the ears, under the chin and on
their legs with metal tipped prods, called bull hooks. Feld
stated that these practices are necessary to protect circus
workers.[/quote]
---
news.yahoo.com/video-boys-beating-deer-ripping-165953288.html
[quote]In the video, which was reportedly filmed in Brookville,
Pennsylvania, the boys can be seen kicking the buck in the face,
ripping off its antlers and stepping on its throat, all while
the animal is alive.
...
Last week, President Trump signed a bipartisan bill that makes
animal cruelty a federal crime punishable with fines and up to
seven years in prison.
...
The bill does not apply to people who kill animals for food or
to those who hunt, trap and fish, however.[/quote]
---
www.thesun.co.uk/news/10533735/super-rats-us-cities-new-york-chi
cago/
[quote]rat control campaigns can have a Darwinian effect on
vermin populations in populous cities.
"If only the fittest rats make it through the control campaign,
the survivors may be even better adapted to take advantage of
the high-resource minefield of modern cities, leaving a new
population of "super rats to breed and repopulate," he said.
...
In 2017, New York City Mayor Bill DeBlasio announced a $32
million initiative to kill rats, but it would only reduce the
rodent population in the city’s most infested areas by 70 per
cent, the Daily Intelligencer reported.
...
An alcoholic rat-dunking device was unveiled in New York City in
September.
The device, called Ekomille, baits rodents with food, then drops
them through a trap door into a non-toxic alcoholic solution
that knocks the rats unconscious and eventually drowns them.
Ekomille can hold up to 80 rat carcasses in its built-in
bucket.[/quote]
In short, the suffering of the individual victims never ends,
while the survivability of the species ever increases (thereby
ensuring the suffering of the individual victims never ends!).
But what else do you expect from Westerners who mimic Yahweh in
everything they do?
If only the Counterculture had lasted:
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvGEZ4S_SuY
#Post#: 77--------------------------------------------------
Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 3, 2020, 1:04 am
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OLD CONTENT contd.
Please stop calling meat factories "farms":
us.yahoo.com/news/distressing-footage-turkey-farm-pliers-glouces
tershire-151751199.html
[quote]Animal welfare group Viva! conducted a three-month
investigation at Gravel Farm in Westbury-on-Severn,
Gloucestershire.
The group claims its footage – taken between September and
November – shows a worker dislocating the necks of two turkeys
with a “neck crushing device”.
After crushing their necks, both birds appear to flap around in
distress for several minutes.
...
Dr Alice Brough, a veterinary consultant who watched the video,
said: “What we see in this footage is incredibly disturbing and
shows a categorical disregard for animal welfare.”
...
"Our team witnessed appalling conditions, documenting the
systematic abuse of farmed turkeys, whose shorts lives are
filled with nothing but misery and pain.
"While some birds were ruthlessly killed with barbaric neck
crushing devices others were left to die slow, agonising deaths
from their injuries – all for the sake of Christmas dinner.
...
Other harrowing parts of the footage show turkeys with open,
bloodied wounds packed into filthy pens on concrete covered in
faeces.
Viva! claims dying birds at the farm were found with untreated
bloody wounds, causes by other distressed birds pecking out
their feathers.
Dr Brough said: “We see extensive evidence of disease, pain and
suffering on this unit. Feather pecking and cannibalism is
widespread, and in some cases severe with raw open wounds,
extreme swelling and bruising.
“This is despite the fact that the birds have been subjected to
beak trimming mutilations in an attempt to curb this behaviour –
a behaviour that stems from environmental conditions failing to
meet the basic needs of the animal, indicative of poor
welfare.”[/quote]
---
One thing I have noticed about Western Civilization is its
consistent disregard for individuals. When taking this into
consideration, I have no disagreement with the charge leveled
against us by rightists for being “overly individualistic”.
---
www.businessinsider.com/heres-a-picture-of-amazon-ceo-jeff-bezos
-eating-an-iguana-2018-3
[quote]But it's not an endangered iguana. Driscol told us it's
an invasive species specially selected for the Explorers Club
Annual Dinner at the Marriott Marquis in Times Square.
By eating it, members are hopefully made more aware of how they
can help take pressure off animals threatened by invasive
species.[/quote]
---
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZkFj9uPKXo
---
When anthropocentrism goes wrong:
www.yahoo.com/news/father-9-old-daughter-mistaken-152553486.html
[quote]A 9-year-old girl and her father were fatally shot while
hunting on New Year's Day when they were mistaken for deer,
South Carolina officials said.
Wednesday in Walterboro, a group of hunters were trying to move
deer, also known as driving deer, the state Department of
Natural Resources said in a news release. The man and his
daughter were mistaken for deer and shot, the department said. A
spokesperson declined to comment further on the
incident.[/quote]
Because we need uplifting news once in a while.
---
Westerners just can't LEAVE ANIMALS ALONE, but instead have to
behave like Yahweh (even their facial expressions look like
Yahweh's FFS!):
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ-SfoUXgHs
The video is from 2009. Since then:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangtze_giant_softshell_turtle#Rediscovere
d_individuals
[quote]The scientists began preparing to mate the two once again
in May 2009, which fell within this species' breeding
season,[30] but in the fall of 2009, the zoo announced that
despite laying 188 eggs, the eggs were infertile and would not
hatch.[31] The Turtle Survival Alliance issued a statement
explaining the infertility was due in part to the turtle's poor
diet and the group expressed concern that the zoo's patrons had
thrown trash into the turtle's enclosure that, if eaten, could
endanger the health of the turtles.[31] On June 15, 2010, the
female laid a total of 63 eggs. Half of the eggs were left in
the sand to incubate naturally, while the other half were moved
to incubate at varying temperatures and humidities. Once again,
they were infertile.
In 2015 artificial insemination was attempted, a first for this
species.[32] In May 2015, the female was successfully
inseminated. Semen was extracted from the sedated male using
electro-ejaculation. By late July, the female had laid 2
clutches of eggs, totaling 89 eggs, but none were viable.[33]
The female of the last breeding pair died at Suzhou Zoo in China
in April 2019, making the species functionally extinct unless a
wild female is found.[3][4][5][/quote]
So they tortured the turtles all these years trying to get them
to reproduce, literally until the female physically couldn't
take any more. If Western civilization had never existed (or at
least if the colonial era had never happened), all the above
could have been avoided and the turtles could just have gone
extinct at their own pace and in dignity. As it is, the
Westerners still refuse to give up:
[quote]As of mid-2017, conservationists are searching for any
possible wild individuals in the remote parts of China. A major
target of the survey are parts of the Red River in Yunnan
Province. Locals in the area have reported seeing 1-2 turtles
that have a similar description to that of this species, meaning
that there is a small possibility the species may still survive
in the wild.[34] In Oct. 2018, the Asian Turtle Program
announced that it was interviewing local people to collect data
to guideline searches for R. swinhoei in the very large area of
flooded valleys formed by damming the Da River.[35]
...
In April 2018, conservationists confirmed the existence of a
second wild individual in Xuan Kanh Lake, Vietnam. The
individual was photographed two times in 2012 and 2017, but both
times the photograph was blurry and provided little confirmation
of its identity. Using traces of the turtle's DNA in the lake's
water, the specimen's identity was confirmed as R. swinhoei.[36]
In Nov. 2018, it was announced that a second, smaller individual
of R. swinhoei also lives in Dong Mo Lake[/quote]
If the colonial era had never happened, the Westerners would not
have such an easy time getting cooperation from the locals.....
---
www.yahoo.com/news/2-elephants-escaped-circus-russia-152042409.h
tml
[quote]2 elephants escaped a circus in Russia and rolled around
in the snow before being recaptured[/quote]
And so the sustainable evil continued its sustainability.....
---
Russkies are notorious animal abusers. I recall a video where
Russkies gave a polar bear an IED for their own amusement..
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF9IzuSYOkI
---
[quote]Every year, more than 400,000 crabs are bled for the
miraculous medical substance that flows through their bodies—now
pharmaceutical companies are finally committing to an
alternative that doesn't harm animals.
And for what exactly do humans need the blood of a living
fossil? A sort of witchcraft, you might say, for it literally
keeps people alive. Horseshoe-crab blood is exquisitely
sensitive to toxins from bacteria. It is used to test for
contamination during the manufacture of anything that might go
inside the human body: every shot, every IV drip, and every
implanted medical device.
So reliant is the modern biomedical industry on this blood that
the disappearance of horseshoe crabs would instantly cripple it.
And in recent years, horseshoe crabs, particularly in Asia, have
come under a number of threats: habitat loss as seawalls replace
the beaches where they spawn, pollution, overfishing for use as
food and bait. Horseshoe crabs bled for the biomedical use in
the United States are returned to the ocean, but an estimated
50,000 also die in the process every year. [/quote]
---
Courtesy of Western civilization:
www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/lab-monkeys-infected-coronav
irus-desperate-21559290
[quote]Monkeys have been infected with a deadly form of
coronavirus in a bid to find a successful vaccine for the
current COVID-19 epidemic.
...
More than 2,400 have been infected with the strain of the virus,
which the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control
estimate has killed 910 humans.[/quote]
See also:
(HTM) https://thehooksite.com/sick-footage-shows-monkeys-screaming-in-pain-during-animal-testing-at-german-laboratory/
---
Courtesy of Western civilization:
www.yahoo.com/news/u-dairy-farmers-dump-milk-100952217.html
[quote]"We need you to start dumping your milk," said his
contact from Dairy Farmers of America (DFA), the largest U.S.
dairy cooperative.
...
Mass closures of restaurants and schools have forced a sudden
shift from those wholesale food-service markets to retail
grocery stores, creating logistical and packaging nightmares for
plants processing milk, butter and cheese. Trucking companies
that haul dairy products are scrambling to get enough drivers as
some who fear the virus have stopped working. And sales to major
dairy export markets have dried up as the food-service sector
largely shuts down globally.
...
Leedle has dumped 4,700 gallons of milk from his 480 cows each
day since Tuesday. The 7,500-member DFA told Reuters it has
asked some other farmers in the cooperative to do the same but
did not say how many.
...
Land O’Lakes Inc., another cooperative, has also warned its
members they may have to dump milk. Another cooperative,
Wisconsin-based Foremost Farms USA, was even more grim.
"Now is the time to consider a little extra culling of your
herds," the cooperative said in a March 17 letter to members.
"We believe the ability to pick up and process your milk could
be compromised."[/quote]
(HTM) https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iNgkkZQc7ZTg/v2/1200x-1.jpg
Background:
web.archive.org/web/20130506181359/
(HTM) http://www.vegsoc.org/page.aspx?pid=556
[quote]Dairy heifers are first used for breeding at
approximately 15 months old. The majority of dairy cows in the
UK are impregnated by artificial insemination (AI). Bulls are
first used for breeding from one year old and a single animal
can father over 15,000 calves a year by AI. Pregnancy lasts
approximately nine months (279 days) and so heifers will be
around 2 years old when they first give birth. Cows are
impregnated again 2 to 3 months after each birth (calving). As
lactation lasts around 10 months the cow is simultaneously
pregnant and lactating for 6 to 8 months during each calving
cycle. Cows have a 6 to 8 week period between lactation ceasing
and their next calving. Most calves are taken away from their
mother within 24 to 48 hours. The cow is then milked for human
consumption for around 10 months.
...
There is a strong bond formed between the mother and her calf in
the first few hours after birth, enforced separation is
therefore a very traumatic experience for both(4).
...
Milking occurs 2 or 3 times a day and it is fully mechanised.
Selective breeding and concentrated feeds have meant dairy cows
can produce ten times more milk than calves would suckle if
given the opportunity. A typical dairy cow produces up to 6,500
litres of milk a year(6). Normally a cow kept with her calf
would produce less than 1,000 litres of milk throughout the
lactation period(7). This huge overproduction of milk has severe
welfare implications for dairy cows and has resulted in a number
of 'production' diseases.
...
A cow’s natural lifespan is 20 to 25 years. By the time the
dairy cow is just five years old she is worn out by the strain
of constant milk and calf production and is slaughtered as she
is of no further use to the industry.[/quote]
NEVER FORGIVE. NEVER FORGET.
---
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz9M8bSKVDE
---
Gentile blood memory:
www.yahoo.com/news/americans-turn-hunting-food-renewal-110932482
.html
[quote]Elliot, emergency manager at Holy Cross Hospital in Taos,
New Mexico, had always wanted to go big-game hunting and, with
the pandemic spreading, there seemed no better time to try to
fill his freezer with free-range, super-lean meat.
So for the first time in his life, despite not owning a rifle or
ever having hunted large animals, he put his name in for New
Mexico's annual elk permit draw.
With some U.S. meat processors halting operations as workers
fall ill, companies warning of shortages, and people having more
time on their hands and possibly less money due to shutdowns and
layoffs, he is among a growing number of Americans turning to
hunting for food, according to state data and hunting groups.
...
"People are starting to consider self-reliance and where their
food comes from," said Forester of the hunter research and
training group. "We're all born hunters."
...
Teachers Brian Van Nevel and Nathaniel Evans get up at 4 a.m. to
try to be first into the forests around Taos to hunt wild
turkey.
Evans, a middle-school teacher, has seen a lot more people
stalking birds this year.
A town councilor as well, he is hunting not just for food but to
reconnect with himself at a time when he is guiding Taos'
response to the pandemic as well as teaching online classes.
"Its been so important for me, being able to go out and kind of
cleanse my mental card and just go and be present, you really
have to be present, and quiet and listening," said Evans, 38,
who in April shot a 17-pound (7.7-kg) bird.[/quote]
---
www.twincities.com/2020/05/06/wood-chippers-employed-to-help-com
post-thousands-of-excess-hogs-near-worthington-plant/
[quote]JBS announced last week it could euthanize 3,000 head of
market-weight hogs per day because they couldn’t be processed
before they grew too large for slaughter and packaging. The JBS
plant in Worthington shut down temporarily because of an
outbreak of COVID-19, the illness caused by the coronavirus,
among workers at the plant. On Wednesday, it resumed operations
but at reduced levels.
...
“This is one of the ways we know that we can effectively compost
and probably speed up the composting process,” he said
Crusan said they don’t yet know how many days it will take for
the hogs to be fully composted, though it will be considerably
shorter than the 60 days it takes for a fully intact carcass to
be composted.[/quote]
By the way, remember this?
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu785cJgG-w
---
The sustainable continues:
us.yahoo.com/huffpost/amy-cooper-dog-returned-back-141214661.htm
l
At least the comments are on our side.....
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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 3, 2020, 1:17 am
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OLD CONTENT contd.
www.yahoo.com/news/trump-expected-allow-commercial-fishing-15170
4077.html
[quote]WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump announced
on Friday he will open up a 5,000 square mile conservation area
in the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of New England to commercial
fishing.
The move allows commercial fishing to resume in the Northeast
Canyons and Seamounts Marine National Monument, a sanctuary
created in 2016 during the Obama administration. It also cancels
a planned phase out of red crab and lobster fisheries in the
area.[/quote]
It's not just Trump who is at fault here for allowing fishing to
resume, but also Obama for temporarily halting it so that victim
populations were given time to build up. The two together enable
the cycle of violence to be sustainable indefinitely. Hunting a
species to extinction once and for all is infinitely less cruel
than hunting it to the brink, then pulling back to allow
recovery, then hunting again, without end. The latter is the
Western way.
---
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGatAW4oFYU
---
"Being Carnivorous Part 1"
www.counter-currents.com/2020/06/becoming-carnivorous-part-i/
[quote]I have been on the Carnivore Diet for about six weeks
now. In case you don’t know, this is the anti-vegan, all-meat
diet. It is being touted for health reasons, but is far more
interesting for the personalities and politics behind it.
Really, this just ought to be called the Dissident Right
Diet.[/quote]
Well, they pretty much just admitted it themselves I guess. No
point in hiding your atrocious dietary habits that will create a
whole host of problems.
---
No prizes for guessing what our enemies are calling veganism
now:
www.counter-currents.com/2020/06/dietary-marxism/
[quote]Even before delving into Carnivore culture, I had
suspected that it was going to be crypto-right-wing. I was
wrong, however — but only about the “crypto.”
...
Further, what if veganism is actually a one-way ticket to
disease and even madness? It is when Carnivore and vegan collide
that the political aspects of diet are brought out in bold
relief. It is also when the Carnivore lifestyle begins to look
like something much more than a prescription for healthy eating.
It begins to look, in fact, like a political reaction against
limp, soy boy effeminacy and the entire worldview that makes it
possible.
As you might imagine, vegans are ever so slightly “triggered” by
the Carnivore Diet. If ever they needed an archenemy, a Blofeld
or a Lex Luthor, they found it in Shawn Baker. Baker is, in
fact, the very embodiment of everything that is hated and
despised by the sort of people who are drawn to veganism. He is
a jock. He is ex-military. He is a powerlifter. He eats four
pounds of beef a day and isn’t shedding any tears over Bossy the
Cow. “Yes, it’s harsh to talk about animals as food,” Baker
writes, “but ultimately that is what they are.” And if we go
way, way back (in time and in the dark depths of the vegan soul)
he is the guy who called them “fag” in the fifth grade and
ridiculed their unprepossessing manhood when it got exposed
after gym class. Their entire outlook on life is founded in
ressentiment against the Shawn Bakers of this world.[/quote]
I would also like to mention how my bullies used to try to sneak
bits of meat into my school lunches when they thought I wasn't
looking.
This is the photo of Baker our enemies included:
(HTM) https://www.counter-currents.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/6-Shawn-Baker-MD-USE-THIS-CAPTION.jpg
Note the primitive facial structure.
[quote]At first, Baker was delighted to debate with vegans. But
what followed was predictable:
Soon I realized that these people were completely invested in an
ideology and would not be swayed no matter what facts were
presented to them. I quickly found that when I asked, “Would you
eat meat if it would improve your health?” the answer was
always, “No!” To me, this response indicated complete
irrationality; I muted and eventually blocked these people on
social media because interacting with them became a huge waste
of time and energy.[/quote]
Because there exists something called ethics, something which
Baker is evidently too primitive to understand.
[quote]And then, right on cue . . . (wait for it, wait for it):
“More and more vegans started attacking me; some even compared
me to Satan and Hitler.” Of course, the irony of comparing Baker
to Hitler is completely lost on these people: Hitler was a
fanatical vegetarian.[/quote]
So are our enemies calling Hitler a "Marxist" now?
[quote]Baker’s analysis of veganism suggests that there is a
high correlation between the diet and insanity. Of course, here
we face a chicken and egg problem: did veganism drive them mad,
or did madness lead them to choose veganism? I would suggest
that it’s a bit of both: veganism tends to dramatically worsen
the mental state of the fragile, life-denying weaklings who are
attracted to it. (There are even vegans so insane they’ve tried
to force the diet on their cats and dogs.)[/quote]
And killing animals for their meat doesn't involve force?
Whereas feeding an animal vegan food is simply not requiring
another animal to be killed in order to feed the first animal.
It is a reduction of violence.
[quote]Baker features a clip of a young Asian-American vegan who
has smeared herself with feces.
...
Baker’s comment about this wacko is priceless: “Okay, if you
wake up in the morning and decide you want to cover your body
and face in feces, clearly something is not right. I don’t know
how many steaks it would take to fix this person, but it’s going
to be a lot.”[/quote]
Between smearing oneself in faeces (which is at least
non-violent) and killing innocent animals (which is violent),
which is worse?
Finally, regarding the stupidity of the term "dietary Marxism"
itself:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx#Health
[quote]Marx was fond of highly seasoned dishes, smoked fish,
caviare[/quote]
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And they are doubling down:
www.counter-currents.com/2020/06/the-politics-of-meat-dietary-an
ti-marxism/
[quote]If veganism is dietary Marxism, is the Carnivore movement
dietary anti-Marxism? I think that the answer is yes. Indeed,
the whole Carnivore subculture smells deliciously Right-wing —
like a perfectly grilled ribeye steak.
...
Carnivore is also born of a viscerally negative reaction to the
shrill, brittle weakness of vegan lefties. “Anything but that!”
the diet seems to be saying, and so we are literally enjoined to
do the exact opposite of veganism.
...
An observer from a distant planet might think that while vegans
are out to save the animals, the Carnivores are the guardians of
the plant kingdom. Actually, Carnivores just don’t give a damn
that something had to die in order to feed them — which is their
real rebellion against veganism. Baker’s attitude, and the
attitude of all the Carnivores, is that life is impossible
without killing. The vegans are slaughtering vegetables, but for
them, that doesn’t count because they claim to know that plants
are not “sentient beings.” Years ago, Joseph Campbell exposed
the self-deception of this when he defined a vegetarian as “a
person who is not sensitive enough to hear a tomato
scream."[/quote]
No (I have actually treated plants as sentient beings ever since
childhood), what makes veganism less violent is that we eat
plants directly whereas non-vegans must use a larger quantity of
plants to feed the animals which they themselves then eat,
because the longer the food chain, the more thermodynamically
inefficient it is. So even comparing only the quantity of plants
killed, vegans kill many times fewer plants than non-vegans to
procure the same food energy. (And on top of this the non-vegans
kill the animals as well!)
aryanism.net/wp-content/uploads/feed-vs-food.jpg
aryanism.net/wp-content/uploads/Energy-waste.jpg
Furthermore, vegans who follow the Aryan diet based primarily on
cereals do not kill the cereal plants, as the cereal plants are
allowed go through their full life cycle in peace prior to being
harvested (which is why the fields are yellow during harvest -
the plants have already died on their own):
[attachimg=1]
As for the supposed "screaming tomato", picking ripe fruit does
not hurt the tree (the reason why tomatoes turn red after
ripening is to make them easier to spot and be picked; contrast
this with animals who try to camouflage to avoid being spotted
and hunted):
[attachimg=2]
[quote]my favorite Carnivore guru, hands down, is a guy named
Tristan Haggard who operates a website and a YouTube channel
called Primal Edge Health. Tristan lives somewhere in the
backwoods of Ecuador with his wife Jessica and two children.
They raise and slaughter their own food, and Jessica is the
author of The Carnivore Cookbook. Tristan, who is a convert to
Eastern Orthodoxy[/quote]
#Post#: 361--------------------------------------------------
Re: Coronavirus
By: guest5 Date: July 17, 2020, 4:40 pm
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Spain’s 90,000 COVID-19-infected mink must die
[quote]Spanish authorities are ordering the culling of nearly
100,000 mink following an outbreak at a farm where animals are
bred for fur. The animals tested positive for the novel
coronavirus along with seven workers.[/quote]
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_smSkTA6MYI
[quote]Josiah S. Cooper
7 minutes ago
How would the humans like to be treated similarly? Not so much.
[/quote]
At least they're not getting skinned alive, another good point
some one made.
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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 3, 2020, 11:15 pm
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(HTM) https://www.wisn.com/article/bears-are-not-billboards-group-upset-after-bear-found-with-political-sticker/33500436#
[quote]The sticker, which appeared to be a President Trump
campaign sticker, was found on the tracking collar of a bear in
North Asheville, according to a Facebook post from the group.
"Bears are NOT Billboards," the post read, in part. The post
said it was the second time a bear was found with a political
sticker in Asheville in a year.
"Whoever put these political stickers on these bears is cruel
and heartless," said the post. "HAB and our followers hope to
stop and expose you."
Jody Williams, the group's founder, said this isn't political.
He said it's wrong to put anything on a bear, regardless of
what's on the sticker.
"It's just so wrong," he said. "Our wildlife is just so
beautiful around here and I just can't imagine somebody doing
harm to it like that, it's absolutely ridiculous."[/quote]
So, which civilization invented telemetry?
(HTM) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telemetry#History
[quote]Telemetering information over wire had its origins in the
19th century. One of the first data-transmission circuits was
developed in 1845 between the Russian Tsar's Winter Palace and
army headquarters. In 1874, French engineers built a system of
weather and snow-depth sensors on Mont Blanc that transmitted
real-time information to Paris. In 1901 the American inventor C.
Michalke patented the selsyn, a circuit for sending synchronized
rotation information over a distance. In 1906 a set of seismic
stations were built with telemetering to the Pulkovo Observatory
in Russia. In 1912, Commonwealth Edison developed a system of
telemetry to monitor electrical loads on its power grid. The
Panama Canal (completed 1913–1914) used extensive telemetry
systems to monitor locks and water levels.[4]
Wireless telemetry made early appearances in the radiosonde,
developed concurrently in 1930 by Robert Bureau in France and
Pavel Molchanov in Russia. Molchanov's system modulated
temperature and pressure measurements by converting them to
wireless Morse code. The German V-2 rocket used a system of
primitive multiplexed radio signals called "Messina" to report
four rocket parameters, but it was so unreliable that Wernher
von Braun once claimed it was more useful to watch the rocket
through binoculars. In the US and the USSR, the Messina system
was quickly replaced with better systems (in both cases, based
on pulse-position modulation).[5]
Early Soviet missile and space telemetry systems which were
developed in the late 1940s used either pulse-position
modulation (e.g., the Tral telemetry system developed by
OKB-MEI) or pulse-duration modulation (e.g., the RTS-5 system
developed by NII-885). In the United States, early work employed
similar systems, but were later replaced by pulse-code
modulation (PCM) (for example, in the Mars probe Mariner 4).
Later Soviet interplanetary probes used redundant radio systems,
transmitting telemetry by PCM on a decimeter band and PPM on a
centimeter band.[6][/quote]
Same one as usual.....
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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 20, 2020, 11:18 pm
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(HTM) https://www.yahoo.com/gma/oklahoma-state-university-bull-rider-111517917.html
[quote]An Oklahoma State University college student has died
after being bucked off of his bull during a bull riding
competition in Texas.[/quote]
What is with Westerners torturing cows for entertainment?
[img width=1280
height=854]
(HTM) https://www.monsterenergy.com/media/uploads_image/2018/09/19/1600/800/839d473fae6ad782bd59832e4ea86e03.jpg[/img]
Of course the Old World version is even worse:
(HTM) https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article22182400.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200b/3_Masterclass-of-bullfighting-in-Malaga-Spain-30-May-2020.jpg
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