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True Left breakthrough: anti-democracy
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 12, 2023, 6:47 pm
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Our message:
(HTM) https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/western-democracy/
is finally spreading!
(HTM) https://rmx.new
s/germany/pro-refugee-ngo-founder-calls-for-afd-to-be-banned-and
-its-leaders-jailed/
[quote]The right-wing Alternative for Germany (AfD) should be
outlawed and its leadership imprisoned in order to deprive
millions of Germans of the chance to vote for the party, the
founder of a German refugee rescue organization has claimed.
Axel Steier, the founder of the sea rescue Mission Lifeline NGO,
made the disturbing remarks in a social media post on Thursday.
He proposed that such a drastic measure was necessary for the
sake of humanity.
“In the country of the perpetrators, it should not be taboo to
ban the AfD and imprison the leadership, even if this deprives
20-40 percent of German voters of their opinion,” Steier posted
on X, formerly known as Twitter.[/quote]
The only thing Steier gets wrong:
[quote]“The persecution of Nazis is still a service to all of
humanity,” he added.[/quote]
No! Hitler was the one who after coming to power banned other
political parties - the exact thing you are advocating we now do
to the AfD! If only Hitler had won WWII, there would never have
been an AfD or any Islamophobic organization allowed in Germany
in the first place!
Previous Steier coverage:
(HTM) https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/operation-gaddafi/msg20684/#msg20684
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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-democracy
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 15, 2023, 5:10 pm
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(HTM) https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/13/afd-party-ban-germany-far-right-extremists/
[quote]The co-leader of Olaf Scholz’s ruling Social Democrats
also said a ban should be considered if the AfD is categorised
as a group of “proven Right-wing extremists”[/quote]
Yes! Ethics alone, irrespective of public opinion, are what
should determine whether or not something should be allowed.
[quote]However Friedrich Merz, the leader of the Christian
Democratic Union, warned that “banning parties has never
actually solved political problems”.[/quote]
This is true so long as the members and voters for those parties
remain alive, as they will just start another party. The
guaranteed effective way to solve political problems is to
physically exterminate them.
[quote]Meanwhile, the German Institute for Human Rights, a
non-governmental organisation, declared last week that “the AfD
have reached a degree of dangerousness that they can be banned
according to the constitution”.
They warned in an analysis that the party is actively and
methodically trying “to implement its racist and Right-wing
extremist goals” and “shifting the limits of what can be said so
that people can get used to their ethno-nationalist positions”.
...
When the Nazis came to power, they banned all other
parties.[/quote]
Follow Hitler's shining example before it's too late!
[quote]Volker Boehme-Nessler, a political scientist, said he
does not believe the party meets the high legal hurdles for a
ban.
He warned that a failed attempt would only give the AfD an
additional boost in the election campaign, he told eastern
German broadcaster MDR.[/quote]
Just stop having elections altogether! Either you sincerely
believe popularity matters, in which case you would not ban the
AfD, or you sincerely believe popularity does not matter, in
which case why have elections at all?
[quote]“You can’t simply ban a party that gets 20-30 per cent
approval” in various states, he added.[/quote]
Just physically exterminate that 20-30%! (This is why many years
ago I was already saying Germany should build a military force
exclusively populated by refugees. This force can then be
deployed for this task.)
[quote]Germans are evenly split on whether the party should be
banned, with 47 per cent of the country in favour of a ban and
47 per cent against.[/quote]
So what!? If we are going to turn against democracy, then in our
rhetoric we should stop caring about how popular something is,
and only ever discuss whether or not it is the ethical thing to
do!
[quote]A ban is more popular in the west and among liberal
Greens.[/quote]
Of course! The Greens are nearest to True Leftism (and indeed to
Hitlerism). The AfD itself is aware of who most threatens them:
(HTM) https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/green-wave/msg1510/#msg1510
[quote]Alexander Gauland, co-leader of the far-right Alternative
for Germany, declared the Greens "our main enemy."
"The Greens will destroy this country, and our job must and will
be to fight the Greens," said Gauland, whose party has claimed
that climate change isn't a man-made phenomenon and that efforts
to tackle it will harm Germany's economy.
In addition to pushing for action on climate change, the Greens
have generally positioned themselves as a counterweight to
anti-immigration parties such as Alternative for Germany, which
have decried the influx of migrants from the Middle
East.[/quote]
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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-democracy
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 22, 2023, 5:23 pm
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Implicit anti-democracy?
(HTM) https://www.yahoo.com/news/nasa-scientist-issues-grim-warning-190000490.html
[quote]In a recent statement released by Hansen alongside two
other scientists, Hansen predicted the warming of the planet to
accelerate in the coming years, musing about a “new climate
frontier.”
“There’s a lot more in the pipeline, unless we reduce the
greenhouse gas amounts,” Hansen told The Guardian. “These
superstorms are a taste of the storms of my grandchildren. We
are headed wittingly into the new reality — we knew it was
coming.”
Speaking of the heat waves that have ravaged much of the
Northern Hemisphere recently, Hansen told The Guardian he cannot
help but feel “a sense of disappointment that we scientists did
not communicate more clearly and that we did not elect leaders
capable of a more intelligent response.”
Of the lack of response by humanity as a whole, Hansen added,
“It means we are damned fools. We have to taste it to believe
it.”[/quote]
The obvious next question: should such damned fools be trusted
to elect their own leaders?
Damned fool comments:
[quote]More created hysteria for profit by the swamp.[/quote]
[quote]The planet hasn’t warmed since like 2011.[/quote]
[quote]We need energy to improve our standard of living and keep
us cool on this warming trend and make us comfortable.[/quote]
[quote]Can a day ever go by without this incessant climate
change idiocy?
How arrogant we are to think we can impact the climate by using
everything electric, powered by fossil fuels? Enough
already.[/quote]
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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-democracy
By: antihellenistic Date: September 4, 2023, 11:54 pm
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Hitler's system of government were not unique, his system was
reviving eastern people's governmental structure
[quote]"The fields of Java are rich and its soil is level and
well watered, therefore grain and rice are abundant, twice as
much as in other countries. The people do not steal, and what is
dropped on the road is not taken up. The common saying:
"prosperous Java" means this country. Men and women wrap up
their head and wear long clothes."[81]: 124 
...
Taxes and fines were paid in cash. Javanese economy had been
partly monetised since the late 8th century, using gold and
silver coins.
...
During the reign of Hayam Wuruk, Majapahit employed a
well-organised bureaucratic structure for administrative
purposes. The hierarchy and structure relatively remain intact
and unchanged throughout Majapahit history.[86] The king is the
paramount ruler, as the chakravartin he is considered the
universal ruler and believed to be the living god on earth. The
king holds the highest political authority and
legitimacy.[/quote]
If Hitler had Fuehrerprinzip and emphasizing farming economy,
Nusantarans did it hundreds of years ago even before Hitler was
birth
More information :
[quote]Majapahit's ports on the north coast were probably
significant stations along the route to obtain the spices of
Maluku, and as the spices passed through Java they would have
provided an important source of income for
Majapahit.[45]: 107 [/quote]
If Majapahit can obtain spices by trade, why the Europeans or
"whites" obtained it by racialism and terror, are they barbaric
or not human or what?
[quote]The upper-class performed suttee, a suicide ritual by
widowed wives, concubines or female servants, through self
immolation by throwing themselves into flaming cremation
fire.[19][20][/quote]
What Hitler did during his suicide were not uncommon on the
Nusantara
Source :
Wikipedia contributors. (2023, August 29). Majapahit. In
Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 04:44, September 5,
2023, from
(HTM) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Majapahit&oldid=1172764738
[quote]The parameters or measurements for dividing social groups
in society at that time were determined based on whether or not
a person or group of citizens was strongly attached to material
or worldly affairs. The further the attachment of a person or
citizen to worldly material interests, the higher his dignity in
society. And conversely, the stronger a person's attachment to
worldly material things and worldly desires, the lower his
dignity.
...
The Sudra group, namely merchants, moneylenders, landowners, or
those who have excessive wealth. They are not allowed to talk
about religion. They are not allowed to discuss the scriptures.
According to the prevailing view at that time, accumulating
wealth was a manifestation of lust or desire for worldliness.
And they are prohibited from talking about religion because of
the mentality of trading and seeking profit, so they are worried
that they will sell the verses for personal gain.[/quote]
Source :
Struktur Sosial Masyarakat Nusantara Era Majapahit
(HTM) https://www.kaskus.co.id/thread/5413171498e31b125e8b4567/struktur-sosial-masyarakat-nusantara-era-majapahit/
Such style of government and social hierarchy was not unique and
not only found on Hitler
Hitler was not part of Western Civilization
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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-democracy
By: rp Date: September 17, 2023, 10:51 pm
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(HTM) https://x.com/chakravartiin/status/1646514767992090627?s=20
[quote]Mr Melancholy
@chakravartiin
Democracy has been the biggest L Vishwaguru took even before
it's inception, you want to compare yourself? Then compare your
beautiful democracy with authoritarian china and then kang over
it. Pakistan's failure has to do more with religious
fundamentalism not military rule.
(HTM) https://x.com/kushal_mehra/status/1646453555170279425?s=20
[quote]कुशल
मेहरा
@kushal_mehra
India's victory as a stable democratic nation is a victory of
its inherent dharmic ethos. Two nations were created in 1947,
but only one became a military state. The reason is its inherent
essence. India's essence is dharmic which is totally compatible
with democratic principles[/quote][/quote]
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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-democracy
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 24, 2023, 7:45 pm
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False Leftist Dollemore clumsily tries to counter Aristotelian
democrat Walsh using False Leftism:
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teytRZPttus
and gets flooded by True Leftist commenters:
[quote]Matt should loose his right to vote.[/quote]
[quote]I 100% agree with Matt Walsh! And the first person that
his philosophy should be applied to is Donald Trump.[/quote]
[quote]I would also include his cult.[/quote]
[quote]He's right.... republicans shouldn't vote!![/quote]
[quote]no maga should be alowed to vote including him. Nor hold
elected office.[/quote]
[quote]If Walsh is referring to the ignorant people who voted
for this group of House republicans, I completely agree with
him! They should never be allowed to vote again.[/quote]
[quote]He is right, though. Some people should not be able to
vote. It's just that it's people like him who do not deserve to
be able to vote since they stand against everything about this
country.[/quote]
[quote]I'd love to see Matt Walsh's face when someone tells him,
he doesn't have the right to vote.[/quote]
[quote]He is right Jessie. Trump voters should not be aloud to
vote [/quote]
[quote]they should not be aloud to live[/quote]
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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-democracy
By: rp Date: September 26, 2023, 10:51 pm
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(HTM) https://www.quora.com/Should-the-Republican-Party-be-banned
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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-democracy
By: rp Date: November 4, 2023, 10:47 am
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(HTM) https://twitter.com/AussieYazz/status/1299831436346753025
[quote]©️AussieYazz 🇦🇺🇹🇷
@AussieYazz
1.3m followers stoking the flames of racism. They are
'secularist' kemalist far right scum of Turkey
İf TR was a dictatorship these bastards wouldn't be able to
breathe let alone spew racist Islamophobic shit every day! These
are the maggots your anti Erdogan stance helps![/quote]
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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-democracy
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 16, 2023, 2:55 pm
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Enemy tweet on consciously anti-democratic leftist entryists:
(HTM) https://twitter.com/StevenEdginton/status/1724762963213480011
[quote]Anonymous Home Office official explains why no matter who
is Home Secretary, Britain's borders will remain wide open:
"Despite our change in boss, when it comes to controlling
Britain’s borders nothing will change. I know this because I
have worked for some time as a civil servant on immigration
policy, and – in my experience – no priority is further from the
Home Office in 2023 than stopping the boats or cutting net
migration.
For all her strident bearing, Suella was cringingly apologetic
in speeches to Home Office staff. Instead of instilling much
needed discipline, she would tell us what a great job we were
doing, not that this got her any kind of loyalty. She was mocked
and insulted by London-based staff furious at the refusal to
extend safe routes to an ever growing number of countries.
Home Office officials have a moral and legal duty to do
everything in their power to deliver the Government’s priorities
on immigration. Political impartiality is a central tenet of the
civil service code, but this has morphed into a culture of
“stewardship”, as our permanent secretary Matthew Rycroft openly
admitted in 2021 (when he was recorded telling colleagues there
is no need to “slavishly” follow government policy on
diversity).
What this means in practice is accepting the bien pensant view
that immigration cannot and should not be controlled, overruling
the instructions of ministers and thereby their democratic
mandates, with many of my colleagues viewing their role as being
part of the resistance to what they see as a radical Right-wing
Government determined to ignore the rules to punish innocent
migrants. This culture of defiance is so widespread that any
suggestion of border controls is sneered at or ignored.
There is widespread understanding that our asylum rules are open
to abuse. Any Border Force officer or civil servant who works on
asylum policy will tell you this openly. Yet any suggestion that
asylum rules be tightened or asylum seekers be refused is
rejected out of hand as cold-hearted evil.
If I were to walk into a meeting and suggest reducing migration
or ask how we could immediately deport small boat arrivals or
foreign criminals, my colleagues might think to ring the many
mental health services we are provided to check in on my sanity.
Even the most moderate attempts to do anything about migration
are met internally as either unreasonable or not legally
possible, with discussion being stopped dead by allusion to
“international law”.
Instead of dealing with the national crises facing Britain,
including record legal and illegal migration, endless time is
wasted. Senior staff hold events on Black History Month,
Windrush and microaggressions. We are told to attend quarterly
“away days” (held online usually, most of us are in the office
just one day a week) where we are given prizes and are told by
senior civil servants just how wrong any political or press
criticism of our work is. In meetings nominally discussing
policy, we are forced to listen to HR Directors give lectures on
diversity and hand out awards about inclusivity. We are
patronised and treated like children.
The mood is of self-congratulation and there is a refusal to
engage let alone learn from the criticism the department
receives, unless of course it comes from the Left or from an
incredibly expensive commission finding that we are
institutionally racist. There is no self-reflection on the fact
we have completely failed to fulfil our democratic duty to
reduce migration.
When the Rwanda scheme seemed a millimetre closer to happening,
staff message boards were filled with comments vowing they will
not work on such an evil project. Senior staff always mollify
these messages and tell staff not to resign. Everyone knows that
the clock is running down on the current Government and nothing
really needs to be done; policies cannot be enacted as they need
governance, and the governance needs terms of reference and the
terms of reference need to be redrafted and then circulated a
few more times before we can hold the first meeting. Many
relatively senior officials spend their time dealing with this
work, toiling away at things that will never be read or used in
an endless round of busywork.
In spite of all this it wouldn’t matter if the Home Office was a
finely oiled machine ready and eager to deliver on every
possible government priority and determined to protect the UK’s
borders. The clear messaging behind closed doors from the
Treasury and other departments is that legal migration should be
expanded to boost lacklustre economic growth.
For my colleagues, I suspect James Cleverly’s ascension is
merely an opportunity to run rings around an inexperienced
minister in a new department. And for Britain, our borders will
remain uncontrolled."[/quote]
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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-democracy
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 19, 2024, 9:51 pm
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Our message is breaking through more and more! Our enemies
report on a True Leftist lawyer:
(HTM) https://vdare.com/posts/open-borders-immigration-lawyer-cyrus-mehta-wants-to-end-democracy
[quote]
(HTM) https://vdare.com/public_upload/publication/featured_image/62112/IMG_1048.jpeg
...
The support for dictatorship is because amnesties always fail in
Congress[/quote]
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