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If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 4, 2020, 3:58 am
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Let us not underestimate how big a nightmare we could
potentially be approaching if we as a world continue down the
current track:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity
[quote]According to the most popular version of the singularity
hypothesis, called intelligence explosion, an upgradable
intelligent agent (such as a computer running software-based
artificial general intelligence) would enter a "runaway
reaction" of self-improvement cycles, with each new and more
intelligent generation appearing more and more rapidly, causing
an intelligence explosion and resulting in a powerful
superintelligence that would, qualitatively, far surpass all
human intelligence.
...
The concept and the term "singularity" were popularized by
Vernor Vinge in his 1993 essay The Coming Technological
Singularity, in which he wrote that it would signal the end of
the human era, as the new superintelligence would continue to
upgrade itself and would advance technologically at an
incomprehensible rate. He wrote that he would be surprised if it
occurred before 2005 or after 2030.[7]
Four polls, conducted in 2012 and 2013, suggested that the
median estimate was a 50% chance that artificial general
intelligence (AGI) would be developed by 2040–2050.[8][9]
...
Such an AI is referred to as Seed AI[14][15] because if an AI
were created with engineering capabilities that matched or
surpassed those of its human creators, it would have the
potential to autonomously improve its own software and hardware
or design an even more capable machine. This more capable
machine could then go on to design a machine of yet greater
capability. These iterations of recursive self-improvement could
accelerate, potentially allowing enormous qualitative change
before any upper limits imposed by the laws of physics or
theoretical computation set in.
...
Kurzweil claims that technological progress follows a pattern of
exponential growth, following what he calls the "law of
accelerating returns". Whenever technology approaches a barrier,
Kurzweil writes, new technologies will surmount it. He predicts
paradigm shifts will become increasingly common, leading to
"technological change so rapid and profound it represents a
rupture in the fabric of human history".[38] Kurzweil believes
that the singularity will occur by approximately
2045.[39][/quote]
Western civilization is solely responsible for this. None of the
other historical civilizations could have landed us in such a
predicament even if they had continued running uninterrupted for
any number of millenia.
The only reliable way to prevent the singularity is to kill
Western civilization while its primary bearers are still human.
As soon as Western civilization passes to a sufficiently
powerful AI, it will become even harder to kill than it
currently is. On the other hand, if we can eliminate its human
bearers before such an AI is created, we drastically reduce the
likelihood of such an AI ever being created, and more broadly
will overthrow Kurzweil's "law of accelerating returns" (which
describes only a world in which the Western mentality is taken
for granted).
WESTERN CIVILIZATION MUST DIE..... preferably before 2045.
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www.jpost.com/Diaspora/How-Jewish-day-schools-are-now-minting-fu
ture-engineers-592583
[quote]some 478 projects on display at a recent annual fair for
students from Jewish high schools to demonstrate their prowess
in engineering and design.
More than 1,450 students participated from 44 schools in states
including New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania,
Maryland and Texas. The Modern Orthodox Frisch School in
Paramus, New Jersey, which Sadinoff attends, has its own
engineering department and was among the largest represented at
the fair.
...
The New Jersey fair — the eighth annual Innovation Day run by
the Center for Initiatives in Jewish Education, or CIJE — was
remarkable not just for the breadth of science and engineering
projects, but for the diversity of Jewish participants: Students
came from single-sex Orthodox yeshivas, pluralistic community
day schools, Modern Orthodox schools, Reform schools and Solomon
Schechter schools, which are affiliated with the Conservative
movement.
...
The Innovation Day is one of several for Jewish day schools
across the country. Others will take place this year in Chicago,
Los Angeles, Baltimore and Boca Raton, Florida. The May 19 fair
was held at Bell Works in Holmdel, New Jersey, the site of the
former Bell Labs, where innovations such as the binary computer,
transistor and touch-tone telephone were invented.
The crowds in the auditorium were a sign of the growing
seriousness with which Jewish day schools are investing in the
STEM fields: science, technology, math and engineering. More
than 170 Jewish schools from across the denominational spectrum
and in 16 states participate in STEM-oriented programs supported
by the Center for Initiatives in Jewish Education.
...
This article was sponsored by and produced in partnership with
the Avi Chai Foundation, which is committed to the perpetuation
of the Jewish people, Judaism and the centrality of the State of
Israel to the Jewish people. In North America, the foundation
works to advance the Jewish day school and overnight summer camp
fields. This article was produced by JTA’s native content
team.[/quote]
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How Westerners think:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7266917/Astronomer-Royal-cyborg
-astronauts-make-great-leap.html
[quote]I never look at the Moon without being reminded of Neil
Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin and of the day, 50 years ago today,
when they left their first footprints on its dusty surface.
...
Hundreds more people have ventured into space since the Apollo
missions — but, anti-climactically, they have done no more than
circle the Earth in low orbit mostly in the International Space
Station (ISS).
These voyages aren't inspiring in the way that the pioneering
Russian and U.S. space exploits were.
...
Will there be a time when no human has first-hand memory of
standing on another world?
Along with millions of others, I'd be saddened if human
exploration of space faded into history.
...
The space environment is inherently hostile for humans. Being
ill-adapted to their new habitat, the pioneer Martian explorers
will have a more compelling incentive than those of us on Earth
to redesign themselves. They'll harness powerful genetic and
cyborg technologies that will be developed in coming decades.
...
We should wish them good luck in modifying their progeny to
adapt to alien environments.
It's these space-faring adventurers, not those of us comfortably
adapted to life on Earth, who will spearhead the post-human era.
...
Organic creatures need a planetary surface environment, but if
post-humans make the transition to inorganic (electronic)
intelligences, they won't need an atmosphere. And they may
prefer zero-g (zero gravity), especially for constructing
extensive but lightweight habitats.
So it's in deep space, not on Earth, or even on Mars, that
non-biological brains may develop powers that humans can't
imagine.
...
The outcome of this 'secular intelligent design' could spread
through our galaxy, and surpass humans by as much as we
(intellectually) surpass slime mould.[/quote]
If Western civilization had never existed, none of the above
would even be an issue.
Slime mould > Westerners
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At least some people are beginning to get it:
www.thenation.com/article/apollo-space-lunar-rockets-colonialism
/
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Graphs of Western civilization:
(HTM) https://asgard.vc/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/accelerating-growth-in-technology-asgard.vc_.png
(HTM) https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c9/c7/b9/c9c7b9ee9a69b0c8486c8cfea06bbd30.jpg
(HTM) https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2019/05/Transistor-Count-over-time-to-2018-768x555.png
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www.express.co.uk/news/science/1194067/brain-medical-breakthroug
h-science-news-organoid-human-brain-function
[quote]Blob-like brains created in lab could have ‘thoughts’ and
are ‘suffering’, scientists warn
MINIATURE brains which have been grown in the lab could have
some form of consciousness and could be suffering as a result,
scientists have worryingly claimed.
...
The blobs of tissue are made from stem cells, and some have been
noted to produce spontaneous brainwaves, something which can be
seen in forming babies, and could be a sign that these blob-like
brains are developing consciousness, or even self-awareness.
...
“We’re already seeing activity in organoids that is reminiscent
of biological activity in developing animals.”
In an accompanying research paper, the scientists stated: "The
compositional and causal features in these cultures are – by
design – often very similar to naturally occurring neural
substrates.
"Recent developments in organoid research also entail that the
anatomical substrates are now approaching local network
organisation and larger structures found in sentient animals.
"Current organoid research is perilously close to crossing this
ethical Rubicon and may have already done so.”[/quote]
As I have said, Westerners are created in the image of Yahweh.
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How Google's Calico aims to fight aging and "solve death":
www.cnn.com/2013/10/03/tech/innovation/google-calico-aging-death
/index.html
Need I remind anyone that Google is owned by Larry Page (Jew)
and Sergey Brin (Jew)?
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Trump Signs Order Prioritizing Artificial Intelligence Research
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8WWJSSFnNo
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(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkQHCSZQvv0
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The monologue reads like a comedy spoof, but unfortunately is
being serious:
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ud7wgbBBnY
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 30, 2020, 11:39 pm
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(HTM) https://www.businessinsider.com/prisoners-could-serve-1000-year-sentence-in-85-hours-in-the-future-2014-3
[quote]Future biotechnology could be used to trick a prisoner's
mind into thinking they have served a 1,000 year sentence, a
group of scientists have claimed.
...
"There are a number of psychoactive drugs that distort people’s
sense of time, so you could imagine developing a pill or a
liquid that made someone feel like they were serving a
1,000-year sentence," she said.
A second scenario would be to upload human minds to computers to
speed up the rate at which the mind works, she wrote on her blog
.
"If the speed-up were a factor of a million, a millennium of
thinking would be accomplished in eight and a half hours...
Uploading the mind of a convicted criminal and running it a
million times faster than normal would enable the uploaded
criminal to serve a 1,000 year sentence in eight-and-a-half
hours. This would, obviously, be much cheaper for the taxpayer
than extending criminals’ lifespans to enable them to serve
1,000 years in real time."[/quote]
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: rp Date: July 30, 2020, 11:41 pm
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This shows time is merely a perception. On the other hand, this
technology could be useful to us to devise cost efficient
punishments for enemies of the state.....
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 31, 2020, 12:04 am
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Why would we want to upload our enemies' minds onto computers?
Anything which can be uploaded can be copied endlessly so long
as there is somewhere to save it, making it extremely difficult
to fully destroy. Do we not have enough problems already?
(HTM) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lawnmower_Man_(film)
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: rp Date: July 31, 2020, 12:05 am
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I was referring to the first scenario. I agree that the computer
option is too risky.
#Post#: 612--------------------------------------------------
Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 31, 2020, 12:31 am
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It is dangerous even to let our enemies think for a subjective
1000 years compressed into a few hours from our frame of
reference. Imagine how much new stuff they could come up with
from all this thinking that could help them defeat us!
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 7, 2020, 12:07 am
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Who did not see this coming?
(HTM) https://news.sky.com/story/amp/white-artificial-intelligence-risks-exacerbating-racial-inequality-study-suggests-12043491
[quote]Researchers suggested machines have distinct racial
identities and this perpetuates "real world" racial stereotypes.
...
The experts analysed recent research from a range of fields,
including Human-Computer Interaction and Critical Race Theory,
to demonstrate that machines can be "racialised", and that this
perpetuates "real world" racial biases.
This includes work on how robots are seen to have distinct
racial identities, with black robots receiving more online abuse
...
"People trust AI to make decisions. Cultural depictions foster
the idea that AI is less fallible than humans."
...
"In cases where these systems are racialised as white, that
could have dangerous consequences for humans that are not," she
said.[/quote]
Aside from my opposition to AI altogether, I have warned
specifically that present-day society is not on an ethical level
anywhere near ready to develop AI safely. Even if (for the sake
of argument) we insisted upon developing AI at some point, we
should definitely not have begun to do so at least until we have
totally eliminated racism (and for that matter all tribalism)
from society. Otherwise almost guarantees that the AI (which by
definition is allowed to learn by itself) will quickly learn it
from society and replicate or even expand on its applications.
But when has Western civilization ever cared about making sure
people are ethically ready for a new machine before inventing
it?
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: guest5 Date: August 7, 2020, 9:01 pm
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[quote]
Aside from my opposition to AI altogether, I have warned
specifically that present-day society is not on an ethical level
anywhere near ready to develop AI safely. Even if (for the sake
of argument) we insisted upon developing AI at some point, we
should definitely not have begun to do so at least until we have
totally eliminated racism (and for that matter all tribalism)
from society. Otherwise almost guarantees that the AI (which by
definition is allowed to learn by itself) will quickly learn it
from society and replicate or even expand on its applications.
But when has Western civilization ever cared about making sure
people are ethically ready for a new machine before inventing
it?
[/quote]
Such a great point!
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 22, 2020, 11:44 pm
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Our enemies again take time to remind us how Westerners think:
(HTM) https://www.counter-currents.com/2020/08/lovely-dark-deep-the-farthest-voyager-in-space/
[quote]I suspect most people have particular topics that affect
them profoundly and cause a welling up of emotion that most
other people would find a bit strange. For me, the topic is
space probes.
...
Maybe my reaction had to do with the fact that this machine,
alone and hundreds of millions of miles from earth, had more
value in terms of knowledge — was somehow more essentially human
— than the vast majority of the globe’s population would ever
be. ... There isn’t much to be proud of when we survey the
current state-of-affairs in our society, but I think space
exploration would earn us at least an approving nod from our
ancestors. These little explorers are examples of the
quintessential spirit of restless Western man that drives him to
discover more, to risk all for the future, to go “the farthest.”
...
Most people who have heard of Voyager know the mission for its
famed “Golden Record,” a golden-plated phonograph disk encoded
with images, sounds, and music from Earth, meant to represent
the “diversity” of its history and cultures to any
extraterrestrials who happened upon either of the two craft. ...
they could have left off the obscure African and Asian greetings
in favor of a sonata or Shakespearean sonnet. We wanted to put
our best foot forward, yes? Not all cultures and peoples had
earned equal rights to speak to space aliens.[/quote]
Again, the above is not satire.
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: rp Date: November 10, 2020, 11:57 pm
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Elon Musk's plan to colonize Mars:
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSv0Y7qrzQM
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