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Military decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 12, 2020, 4:38 am
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OLD CONTENT
All formerly colonized countries that retain on its territory
military presence by former colonial powers, while not having
equivalent military presence in the territory of the former
colonial powers, should still be considered colonized. The
current situation:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_military_bases_of_the_United_King
dom
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_military_bases_abroad
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_military_bases_of_France
Genuine decolonization should include either:
1) complete removal of all foreign military presence from one's
territory;
or:
2) installation of matching military presence in the territory
of all foreign countries whose military presence is permitted on
one's own territory.
As for which of these options should be implemented, this must
be considered on a case-by-case basis. For example, as we aim
for a military invasion of Israel by the same countries which
previously created Israel, it would be unwise for (for example)
British military bases which could be used to attack Israel to
be vacated for now. Thus 2) would be preferable in such cases,
at least until Israel is destroyed.
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Oh shit:
www.businessinsider.com.au/us-military-plans-secretive-new-305-m
illion-naval-expansion-australia-usfpi-2019-7
[quote]The US military is planning a secretive new $305 million
naval expansion in Australia but no one wants to talk about it
...
The US Department of Defence is considering spending $305.9
million on naval infrastructure in Darwin as it expands its
presence in Australia but it doesn’t want to say what it’s going
to build.
According to a drafted US Congressional bill the ABC discovered,
$US211.5 is being put aside for “Navy Military Construction” in
the Northern Territory capital, pending approval by US
lawmakers.
However, other than outlining that “the Secretary of the Navy
may acquire real property and carry out military construction
projects for the installations or locations outside the United
States”, the bill itself carries very few details.
The same bill also mentions proposed “military constructions” to
be built predominately at points around the Pacific, including
in Guam and Japan. The Darwin project is the second most
expensive project in the bill, with the Guam proposal–
strategically-positioned with Korea and Japan to its north and
Taiwan to its west — coming in slightly higher at $327 million.
It comes as tensions simmer between the two global superpowers
in the disputed South China Sea and the Pacific more broadly.
Last week, a US warship sailed through the Taiwan Strait, a day
after China warned it would use force to protect its interests.
If approved, the proposed Darwin project would be one of the
biggest US military developments in Australia in recent years.
However, despite that implication, authorities on both sides of
the Pacific are reluctant to speak about the project.
“The $211.5M (USD) in the draft Congress Bill is identified
against an agreed works plan under the (US Force Posture
Initiatives). This funding is not yet approved,” was all that a
US Defence spokesperson would tell Business Insider Australia
about its plan.
It would not be drawn on what exactly it wants to build in
Darwin, how long the plans had been under consideration and what
level of input the Australian Defence Department has had.
It did reveal however that the Darwin proposal forms part of the
US Force Posture Initiatives, a concerted effort to build $2
billion worth of defence-related infrastructure to strengthen
its presence in northern Australia and “position both nations to
better respond to crises in the region”, according to the
Australian Department of Defence.[/quote]
The Pacific Pivot is happening as we speak. It must be reversed.
For more details:
authenticamericandream.blogspot.com/2018/03/countering-pacific-p
ivot.html
Hostility towards China must cease to be a bipartisan position.
Blue candidates are in complete chaos on this subject as they
try to differ from Trump on China not by proposing a different
attitude towards China but instead merely by proposing
alternative methods of hostility towards China:
www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/07/how-will-democ
rats-deal-china/594817/
when all along the straightforward answer is to let hostility
towards China be a Red-only position while themselves picking a
target that Reds worship (e.g. Israel) to be hostile towards,
thereby achieving a fully-fledged Red-Blue foreign policy
polarization.
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An informative map:
[img]
(HTM) https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/e53d0eb002b0cffa5c697bdbd2a12a64[/img]
The article which features this map:
www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/us-so-weakened-in
-indopacific-it-could-now-lose-war-to-china/news-story/0a1666c17
140615cc67477dd2b5adc06
spins it as if it is the US which is in danger by its overseas
bases being within range of China's missiles, but in reality it
is China which understandably feels endangered being so closely
surrounded by such a ludicrously large number of bases in the
first place! None of these bases should exist. If the US really
is worried about its troops being hit by missiles, the best
response is to withdraw all the troops!
Most importantly, the countries actually hosting the US bases
have no reason to tolerate the bases, which if they were
psychologically healthy should make them feel colonized.
(Especially Japan, considering the country with military bases
on your land is the very same country which nuked you back in
WWII, and set up the bases immediately afterwards!)
---
A decent start:
www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3029751/can-beijing-ta
ke-advantage-relocation-us-troops-south-korea
[quote]The plan to relocate American troops was drawn up in the
early 2000s but has suffered repeated setbacks. However, after
coming under pressure from its host to speed up the process, the
US said this week it was committed to returning the bases to
Seoul “as expeditiously as possible”.
In a statement released on Wednesday, US Forces Korea (USFK)
said 15 of the 26 installations had been vacated and closed, and
were now available for transfer to the South Korean government.
“The perception is that USFK is holding up the process when the
reality is we’ve already got 15 of 26 bases and five parcels of
Yongsan that are ready to be turned over to the [South Korean]
government,” USFK spokesman Colonel Lee Peters was quoted as
saying by US military newspaper Stars and Stripes.[/quote]
11 to go. Even a single base is unacceptable. Other countries in
the region should also take this opportunity to ramp up the
pressure against Western military bases on their territory,
using the South Korea withdrawal as a precedent.
---
www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/10/29/national/u-s-conducts-parac
hute-training-base-okinawa-despite-calls-cancellation-tokyo/
[quote]The U.S. military conducted parachute training at its
Kadena Air Base in Okinawa Prefecture on Tuesday despite the
Japanese government’s call for the exercise to be canceled.
The parachute training, which was carried out from 6:40 p.m.,
was the fourth of its kind at the base this year.
An agreement reached by the Japanese and U.S. governments in
1996 calls for the U.S. military to hold, in principle,
parachute training at the U.S. Marine Corps’ auxiliary airfield
in the island village of Ie in the prefecture.
Many Okinawa people have called on the U.S. military to stop
conducting the parachute drills, as a local girl was killed in
1965 in Yomitan after being crushed under a U.S. military
trailer that was released from an aircraft.
Defense Minister Taro Kono had asked the U.S. side to cancel
Tuesday’s drill, saying that it would go against their
agreement.
On Tuesday night, Kono told reporters that the U.S. side had
failed to provide a sufficient explanation about the drill.
“This was an extremely regrettable development that may affect
the Japan-U.S. alliance,” he said.[/quote]
How much longer will the very presence of US bases be tolerated?
Merely complaining about the drills is pretty superficial.
People have to be willing to discuss the root of the problem.
finance.yahoo.com/news/okinawa-governor-warns-strong-resistance-
220000091.html
[quote](Bloomberg) -- As the Pentagon hunts for sites to deploy
missiles against a rising China, Okinawa’s governor is warning
the U.S. to steer clear of the southern Japanese prefecture.
Governor Denny Tamaki said in an interview Friday that any U.S.
attempt to base intermediate-range ballistic missiles in Okinawa
would be firmly opposed by the local people. Tamaki, who was
elected last year on a campaign to get the Marines’ Futenma air
base out of the prefecture, argues the region already shoulders
an unfair burden by hosting about half of the 50,000 U.S.
military personnel in Japan.
“Intermediate-range ballistic missiles can be used to attack
other countries, so deploying them would conflict with the
constitution and lead to a further build-up of the U.S. bases,”
Tamaki, 60, told Bloomberg News. “To have new military
facilities would be absolutely unacceptable.”[/quote]
Yes!
---
www.rt.com/news/472814-f16-training-bomb-japan/
[quote]Pentagon ‘investigating’ after US warplane drops training
munition on Japanese VILLAGE
...
“While conducting training, an F-16 at Misawa released a device
5 kilometers from the Draughon range late Wednesday,” US Forces
Japan (USFJ) wrote in a tweet. “The cause of the incident is
still under investigation, and USFJ notified [the Japanese
government] this morning in accordance with all agreements.”
...
While the US has not been at war with Japan for the better part
of a century, Washington still maintains an arsenal of military
assets in the country for strategic purposes, effectively using
the small island nation as an aircraft carrier. The US presence
was established with Japan’s consent in 1957, and now consists
of around 54,000 troops.
Accidents involving American warplanes have become something of
a regular occurrence, however, with some 25 US vehicles involved
in one mishap or another in 2017 alone. The bulk of 2017’s
accidents occurred over Okinawa, which hosts the US’s Kadena Air
Base (despite intense objections from locals). Last year, an
American F-15 taking off from Kadena crashed some 50 miles off
the Japanese coast, though the pilot ejected and was brought to
safety.[/quote]
Why hasn't Japan kicked them all out yet?
---
news.yahoo.com/trump-asked-tokyo-8-bln-045427542.html
[quote]TOKYO, Nov 16 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump has
asked Japan to quadruple its payments for U.S. forces stationed
there, Foreign Policy reported, citing unnamed current and
former U.S. officials, as Washington presses long-standing
allies to increase their defence spending.
Washington wants Tokyo to increase annual payments for the
54,000 U.S. troops in Japan to around $8 billion from about $2
billion, Foreign Policy said, citing three unnamed former
defence officials. The current agreement expires in March
2021.[/quote]
All Japan has to do is refuse to pay, and the US troops are out.
Japan both gets rid of the US troops and saves money! Why even
hesitate?
---
news.antiwar.com/2019/11/22/uk-refuses-to-return-its-last-africa
n-colony/
[quote]The UK failed to meet a UN deadline Friday to hand over
their last African colony back to its people. The Chagos Islands
are far removed from mainland Africa and lay in the middle of
the Indian Ocean.
In 1968, the British granted the Island of Mauritius its
independence from colonial rule. Mauritius lies over 1,300 miles
southwest of the Chagos Islands and was part of the same
colonial territory.
Over 2,000 residents of Diego Garcia, the largest island of the
Chagos, were forced to move to Mauritius to make way for a US
military base. Since the expulsion, the people of Chagos have
been fighting to return to their homeland.
In February, the International Court of Justice ruled that the
islands are legally a part of Mauritius. In May, the UN General
Assembly voted in favor of the court’s ruling and gave the UK
six months to hand back the islands. 116 countries voted in
favor of the decision, and only six voted against it. Those six
countries were the US, UK, Israel, Australia, Hungary, and the
Maldives.
In defense of their colonial rule, the British government
released a statement, “The UK has no doubt as to our sovereignty
over the British Indian Ocean Territory, which has been under
continuous British sovereignty since 1814.”
Ultimately, the UN resolution is not binding, and the UK will
likely hold onto the colony while the US still has a lease on
Diego Garcia, which they extended in 2016 to last until
2036.[/quote]
In simple terms, Y steals from X, lends the stolen property to
Z, and then tells X that it cannot be given back until Z is
finished with it because it would be inconsiderate towards Z
otherwise.
Background:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_the_Chagossians
[quote]The depopulation of Chagossians from the Chagos
Archipelago was the forced expulsion of the inhabitants of the
island of Diego Garcia and the other islands of the British
Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT) by the United Kingdom, at the
request of the United States, beginning in 1968 and concluding
on 27 April 1973 with the evacuation of Peros Banhos
atoll.[1][2] The people, known at the time as the Ilois,[3] are
today known as Chagos Islanders or Chagossians.[4]
Some Chagossians and human rights advocates have said that the
Chagossian right of occupation was violated by the British
Foreign Office as a result of the 1966 agreement[5] between the
British and American governments to provide an unpopulated
island for a U.S. military base, and that additional
compensation[6] and a right of return[7] be provided.
...
The British government has consistently denied any illegalities
in the expulsion.[/quote]
NEVER FORGIVE. NEVER FORGET.
---
No change since last report:
us.yahoo.com/news/okinawa-gov-renews-demand-stop-064533617.html
[quote]TOKYO (AP) — Okinawa's Gov. Denny Tamaki renewed demands
Thursday that Japan's central government halt construction of a
U.S. Marine Corps. base being relocated to a less-crowded area
of the southern Japanese island despite vehement local
opposition.
Tamaki was responding to a defense ministry estimate that the
project will require more than twice the time and costs earlier
estimated because the seabed at the planned reclamation is “as
soft as mayonnaise,” experts say, and needs reinforcing.
U.S. Marine Corps Air Station Futenma is to be moved from
densely populated Ginowan to the previously undeveloped Henoko
area on Okinawa's eastern coast. Futenma's current base is to be
closed and returned to Okinawa. Opponents of the relocation plan
want the base moved entirely out of Okinawa
...
The Defense Ministry said moving Futenma base to Henoko will
cost 930 billion yen ($8.5 billion) and take 12 years, pushing
its completion and the closure of Futenma into the 2030s. That
adds more than a decade to the plan, which has already been
delayed by more than 20 years because of local opposition and
other reasons.[/quote]
---
"Is it possible that if the US were to be kicked out of the
Middle-East the rest of the world would rally against the United
States?"
Given that the US's poor reputation around the world is due to
its Zionist operations in the Middle East, other countries would
surely have less motivation to oppose the US if these activities
ceased. This is the temptation that anti-neocons are dangling to
distract from the possibility that the US could improve its
reputation even more by switching to anti-Zionist operations in
the Middle East.
"the US will always have a way back in as long as Israel
remains."
Yes, which is why I want it to be the US which leads the future
war to destroy Israel. This would be both compensation for its
past Zionism and a clear signal that after Israel is destroyed
the US means to leave the Middle East permanently.
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"This is the temptation that anti-neocons are dangling:"
Yup. And the anti american False Left (who are effectively
useful idiots for Duginism if you've read his writings) is
promoting this. In my view, the worldview of the anti-american
False Left that exalts Russia is similar to that of the
archetypal False Left feminist who is superficially only opposed
to patriarchy in her own culture but actually seeks to elevate
the patriarchies of other cultures....
"to distract from the possibility that the US could improve its
reputation even more by switching to anti-Zionist operations in
the Middle East."
And I assume you are counting on the demographic blueshift alone
to achieve this? I want to believe this is possible, but I am
afraid of a nightmare scenario where the "coalition of the
fringes" breaks apart. I will discuss this at length on the
Demographic Blueshift page.
---
"I assume you are counting on the demographic blueshift alone to
achieve this?"
BDS too!
We did not need Demographic Blueshift (though it doubtless
helped!) to end Apartheid South Africa back in the
Counterculture era.
"I am afraid of a nightmare scenario where the "coalition of the
fringes" breaks apart."
That is up to us to prevent!
(HTM) https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/uniting-americans/
#Post#: 270--------------------------------------------------
Re: Military decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 12, 2020, 4:42 am
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OLD CONTENT contd.
What I like to see:
www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/01/24/616953/Baghdad-anti-US-rally
[quote]Iraqis have rallied in Baghdad in massive numbers to call
for an end to US military presence in the country following
high-profile assassinations and airstrikes targeting anti-terror
forces.
Sayed Sadiq al-Hashemi, the director of the Iraqi Center for
Studies, said more than 2.5 million took part in the
demonstrations on Friday.
Since the early hours on Friday, huge crowds of men, women and
children of all ages converged on the Jadriyah neighborhood near
Baghdad University.
The protesters were seen carrying banners and chanting slogans
calling for the expulsion of US forces.
"Get out, get out, occupier!" some shouted, while others
chanted, "Yes to sovereignty!"
...
On January 5, the Iraqi parliament voted overwhelmingly in favor
of a resolution calling for the expulsion of all foreign forces
after the US assassination of Iran's General Qassem Soleimani
and his Iraqi trenchmate Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis.
...
The massive rally came after influential cleric Muqtada al-Sadr
called on Iraqis to stage "a million-strong, peaceful, unified
demonstration to condemn the American presence and its
violations".
Sadr issued a statement on Friday calling for US bases to be
shut down and Iraqi airspace closed to US warplanes and
surveillance aircraft.
He warned that US presence in the country will be dealt with as
an occupying force if Washington does not agree with Iraqi
demands to withdraw for the country.[/quote]
---
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF2WjPVCn0o
---
More of what I like to see:
www.npr.org/2020/02/11/804751958/philippines-says-it-will-end-u-
s-security-agreement
[quote]At the direction of President Rodrigo Duterte, a fierce
critic of the United States, the Philippines announced Tuesday
that it would scrap a security pact that allows American forces
to train there.
...
The U.S. Embassy in Manila issued a brief statement on Tuesday
calling Duterte's move "a serious step with significant
implications for the U.S.-Philippine alliance."
...
Duterte came to office three years ago with strong words for
Washington. Among other things, he has said the U.S. treats the
Philippines as "like a dog on a leash" and has accused U.S.
forces of clandestine activities in the country. After assuming
power in 2016, Duterte executed a dramatic pivot away from the
U.S. and toward China, increasingly the dominant regional power.
Renato de Castro, professor of international studies at De La
Salle University in Manila, told NPR that the decision to
jettison the Visiting Forces Agreement is part of "Duterte's
desire to do away with the U.S., so there is no obstacle in his
pivot to China."[/quote]
Our enemies are worried:
www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/02/15/philippines-want-the-u
s-out-not-alone/
[quote]The Philippines are located in the region of a potential
Naval blockade, meaning that without them suffocating the
Chinese from a naval standpoint becomes much more difficult and
perhaps impossible.
...
this is not the only nation that is trying to or has
successfully removed U.S./NATO forces. The Kyrgyz ended foreign
operations in their country most of which used their largest
airport in Bishkek. (On a personal note it was very odd and
humiliating to see an international airport with more foreign
military planes in Bishkek than civilian, there were also many
accusations of bad behavior towards locals including one alleged
murder). Surprisingly even the Iraqi government which was
essentially built by the U.S. has asked their forces to leave
the country after the assassination of Iranian General
Soleimani. Even the Mainstream Media admits that tens of
thousands of Japanese have protested against U.S. bases in other
country (again due to alleged abuse of locals). However, the
government of Japan has made no formal requests to have U.S.
forces leave, but quietly the constitutional ban on having a
real military is being worn away by Tokyo as it has seen its
first round of military expansion in decades.
In order for the U.S. to maintain its global military presence
it needs to take a look at cases in which occupation has been
seen as a positive by locals – South Korea.[/quote]
Which is why South Korea should never have existed.
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(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N5v8ZfywzM
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Duterte the coward:
www.yahoo.com/news/philippines-suspends-abrogation-defense-pact-
154110985.html
[quote]
MANILA, Philippines (AP) — The Philippine president has
suspended his decision to terminate a key defense pact with the
United States, at least temporarily avoiding a major blow to one
of America’s oldest alliances in Asia.
...
President Rodrigo Duterte’s administration notified the U.S.
government on Feb. 11 that it intends to abrogate the 1998
agreement, which allows the entry of large numbers of American
forces for joint combat training with Filipino troops and lays
down the legal terms for their temporary stay. The termination
would have taken effect after 180 days, in August, unless both
sides agreed to keep the agreement.
...
“Do we need America to survive as a nation?” Duterte asked in
February. “Do we need … the might and power of the military of
the United States to fight our rebellion here and the terrorists
down south and control drugs?”
“The (Philippine) military and police said, `Sir, we can do
it,’” Duterte said.[/quote]
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Re: Military decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 12, 2020, 4:44 am
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(HTM) https://us.yahoo.com/news/dozens-us-marines-japans-okinawa-114553528.html
[quote]TOKYO (AP) — Dozens of U.S. Marines at two bases on the
southern Japanese island of Okinawa have been infected with the
coronavirus in what is feared to be a massive outbreak,
Okinawa's governor said Saturday, demanding an adequate
explanation from the U.S. military.
...
“Okinawans are shocked by what we were told (by the U.S.
military),” Tamaki told a news conference. “We now have strong
doubts that the U.S. military has taken adequate disease
prevention measures.”
Tamaki demanded transparency in the latest development and said
he planned to request talks between the U.S. military and
Okinawan officials. He said Okinawan officials also asked the
Japanese government to demand that the U.S. provide details
including the number of cases, seal off Futenma and Camp Hansen,
and step up preventive measures on base.[/quote]
Better idea: evacuate and shut down the base altogether!
[quote]Okinawa is home to more than half of about 50,000
American troops based in Japan under a bilateral security pact,
and the residents are sensitive to U.S. base-related problems.
Many Okinawans have long complained about pollution, noise and
crime related to U.S. bases.
Okinawans also oppose a planned relocation of the Futenma air
base from the current site in a densely populated area in the
south to a less populated area on the east coast.
Local media reported that the Okinawan assembly adopted a
resolution Friday protesting the U.S. military's lack of
transparency about its outbreak on base.[/quote]
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Re: When it comes to Palestine, France can't shake off its colon
ial past
By: guest5 Date: January 21, 2021, 8:45 pm
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France pressed to investigate its massacre in Mali
[quote]Human Rights Watch urges France to fully and impartially
investigate reported loss of 19 civilian lives after its
airstrikes targeted, what locals have identified as, a wedding
ceremony in east-central Mali in early January.
The attacks were carried out by two French Mirage 2000
warplanes, part of France’s expansive military presence in the
impoverished West African country, near the village of
Bounti.[/quote]
(HTM) https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2021/01/21/643573/Mali-France-Human-Rights-Watch-wedding-massacre-civilians
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Re: Afghanistan
By: guest5 Date: April 15, 2021, 9:28 pm
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How will US troop withdrawal affect Afghanistan?
[quote]It’s been the United States' longest running war, but now
it looks set to end.
President Joe Biden plans to withdraw all U.S. troops from
Afghanistan by September the 11th this year.
That's exactly 20 years after the invasion was ordered by
then-president George W.Bush, following the attacks on New York
City and the Pentagon.
The planned withdrawal will miss a May 1 deadline for a pull-out
that the Trump administration agreed with the Taliban last year.
The US has 2,500 soldiers in Afghanistan as part of a NATO
mission.
It's spent trillions of dollars on the conflict and lost more
than 2,000 service members since 2001.
Washington says it will reposition its troops in the region to
keep an eye on Afghanistan.
But some US officials have criticised the decision as a grave
mistake that could embolden the Taliban and lead to more
violence.[/quote]
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JknHEaIHxSI
#Post#: 6761--------------------------------------------------
Re: Afghanistan
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 28, 2021, 2:46 am
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(HTM) https://www.yahoo.com/news/wave-afghan-surrenders-taliban-picks-182414782.html
[quote]as U.S. troops began leaving the country in early May,
Taliban fighters besieged seven rural Afghan military outposts
across the wheat fields and onion patches of the province, in
eastern Afghanistan.
The insurgents enlisted village elders to visit the outposts
bearing a message: Surrender or die.
...
By mid-month, security forces had surrendered all seven outposts
after extended negotiations, according to village elders.
...
Since May 1, at least 26 outposts and bases in just four
provinces — Laghman, Baghlan, Wardak and Ghazni — have
surrendered after such negotiations, according to village elders
and government officials. With morale diving as U.S. troops
leave, and the Taliban seizing on each surrender as a propaganda
victory, each collapse feeds the next in the Afghan countryside.
Among the negotiated surrenders were four district centers,
which house local governors, police and intelligence chiefs —
effectively handing the government facilities to Taliban control
and scattering the officials there, at least temporarily.
The Taliban have negotiated Afghan troop surrenders in the past,
but never at the scale and pace of the base collapses this month
in the four provinces extending east, north and west of Kabul.
The tactic has removed hundreds of government forces from the
battlefield, secured strategic territory and reaped weapons,
ammunition and vehicles for the Taliban — often without firing a
shot.[/quote]
As soon as the Taliban retakes Afghanistan, the US should resume
the old Counterculture-era alliance with them:
(HTM) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan%E2%80%93United_States_relations#Soviet_invasion_and_civil_war
[quote]During the period of Soviet occupation of Afghanistan,
the U.S. provided about 3 billion US dollars in military and
economic assistance to the Mujahideen groups stationed on the
Pakistani side of the Durand Line. The U.S. Embassy in Kabul was
closed in January 1989 for security reasons.
The United States welcomed the new Islamic administration that
came to power in April 1992 after the fall of the former
Soviet-backed government.[8][/quote]
(HTM) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Afghan_War#United_States
[quote]Democratic congressman Charlie Wilson became obsessed
with the Afghan cause, in 1982 he visited the Pakistani
leadership, and was taken to a major Pakistan-based Afghan
refugee camp to see first hand the conditions and the Soviet
atrocities. After his visit he was able to leverage his position
on the House Committee on Appropriations to encourage other
Democratic congressmen to vote for CIA Afghan war money.[241]
Wilson teamed with CIA manager Gust Avrakotos and formed a team
of a few dozen insiders who greatly enhanced support for the
Mujahideen. With Ronald Reagan as president he then greatly
expanded the program as part of the Reagan Doctrine of aiding
anti-Soviet resistance movements abroad. To execute this policy,
Reagan deployed CIA Special Activities Division paramilitary
officers to equip the Mujihadeen forces against the Soviet
Army.[/quote]
This was also a time when America and China were fighting on the
same side, which is what we are trying to get back to:
(HTM) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Afghan_War#China
[quote]China responded to the Soviet war in Afghanistan by
supporting the mujahideen and ramping up their military presence
near Afghanistan in Xinjiang. China acquired military equipment
from America to defend itself from Soviet attack.[282] At the
same time relations with the United States had cooled
considerably that by 1980 Washington had begun to supply China
with a variety of weapons. They even reached an agreement of two
joint tracking and listening stations in Xinjiang.[283]
The Chinese People's Liberation Army provided training, arms
organisation and financial support. Anti-aircraft missiles,
rocket launchers and machine guns, valued at hundreds of
millions, were given to the mujahideen by the Chinese.
Throughout the war Chinese military advisers and army troops
trained upwards of several thousand Mujahidin inside Xinjiang
and along the Pakistani border.[283][/quote]
This is how we will build the anti-Duginist front!
More about Wilson:
(HTM) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Wilson_(Texas_politician)#Soviet-Afghan_war
[quote]Wilson later said that "the experience that will always
be seared in my memory, was going through those hospitals and
seeing, especially those children with their hands blown off
from the mines that the Soviets were dropping from their
helicopters. That was perhaps the deciding thing ... and it made
a huge difference for the next 10 or 12 years of my life because
I left those hospitals determined, as long as I had a breath in
my body and was a member in Congress, that I was going to do
what I could to make the Soviets pay for what they were doing!"
In 2008, Wilson said he had "got involved in Afghanistan because
I went there and I saw what the Soviets were doing. And I saw
the refugee camps."[27]
...
Wilson died at the age of 76 on February 10, 2010, at Memorial
Health System of East Texas at Lufkin (now the CHI St. Luke's
Health Memorial Lufkin) in Lufkin, Texas, after collapsing
earlier in the day.[47] He suffered from cardiopulmonary
arrest.[48][49][50] "America has lost an extraordinary patriot
whose life showed that one brave and determined person can alter
the course of history," said Robert Gates, then United States
Secretary of Defense.[51][52]
...
After Sunday's service, his widow Barbara welcomed a small group
of her late husband's intimates to their home on the golf course
in Lufkin. Next to an American eagle sculpture in the living
room, the words of Abdur Rahman Khan, emir of Afghanistan from
1880 to 1901, are emblazoned on a brass plaque: "My spirit will
remain in Afghanistan even though my soul will go to God. My
last words to you my son and successor are: Never Trust the
Russians." [57][/quote]
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Re: Military decolonization
By: rp Date: June 11, 2021, 11:51 am
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(HTM) https://twitter.com/farsazadi/status/1403155359737389057?s=19
[Quote]
there are still over a million undetonated explosives throughout
afghanistan because of the soviets’ indiscriminate bombing
campaigns. they still regularly kill people, 8/10 victims are
children particularly because the soviets deliberately made many
bombs appear as toys
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(HTM) https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1400553987422789632?s=19][Quote]
3 children in Pakistan were killed after finding a grenade they
thought was a toy. Unexploded grenades from the 1979 Soviet
invasion of neighboring Afghanistan have killed dozens of
children there.
Unexploded war weapons kill or wound over 10,000 children every
year globally.
[img width=1280
height=936]
(HTM) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2_EavhXMAEaEup?format=jpg&name=large[/img]
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Re: Military decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 22, 2021, 1:04 am
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(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1vQBY7mHzA
The comments get it:
[quote]so this is why west medias loves to bs stuff bout uygur
xD[/quote]
[quote]now we know why the west wants to try and destabilized
this region[/quote]
[quote]thats the reason xinjiang needs democracy
😂😂😂...same as iraq, libya etc[/quote]
[quote]No wonder the west want to control China again. Democracy
free with every two gallons![/quote]
[quote]No wonder somebody suddenly cares so much about the "
fake genocide" in Xinjiang[/quote]
[quote]ha haa😂😂😂 now we can see why
western media always mention this region they are jealous
😂😄😄 they must have known this region has
oil and gas[/quote]
[quote]Time for Human Rights, Freedom & Democrazy.[/quote]
[quote]Tats it! They need democracy🤣[/quote]
[quote]som1 gonna introduce demoCrazy[/quote]
[quote]In past western used opium and now they used the
term"human right"..[/quote]
[quote]Watch out...freedom and democracy is coming your
way[/quote]
[quote]these oil supposed to be stored in democracy tank[/quote]
etc.
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Re: Military decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 29, 2021, 2:16 am
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(HTM) https://us.yahoo.com/news/imminent-nearly-20-years-us-060907789.html
[quote]It's imminent: After nearly 20 years US to leave Bagram
...
In just a matter of days, the last U.S. soldiers will depart
Bagram. They are leaving what probably everyone connected to the
base, whether American or Afghan, considers a mixed legacy.
...
The Soviet Union built the airfield in the 1950s. When it
invaded Afghanistan in 1979 to back a communist government, it
turned it into its main base from which it would defend its
occupation of the country. For 10 years, the Soviets fought the
U.S.-backed mujahedeen, dubbed freedom fighters by President
Ronald Reagan, who saw them as a front-line force in one of the
last Cold War battles.
...
“The closure of Bagram is a major symbolic and strategic victory
for the Taliban,” said Bill Roggio, senior fellow at the
Foundation for the Defense of Democracies.
“If the Taliban is able to take control of the base, it will
serve as anti-U.S. propaganda fodder for years to come,” said
Roggio who is also editor of the foundation’s Long War
Journal.[/quote]
Unless the US officially switches back to supporting the Taliban
first.
(HTM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=577l7aAlnTg
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Re: Military decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 30, 2021, 12:06 am
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(HTM) https://www.yahoo.com/news/german-military-completes-withdrawal-afghanistan-204032363.html
[quote]BERLIN (Reuters) - The German military late on Tuesday
concluded its withdrawal from Afghanistan after almost two
decades, finishing Germany's deadliest military mission since
World War 2.
...
Over the last years, Germany had the second largest contingent
of troops after the United States in Afghanistan, with around
150,000 soldiers deployed over the past two decades, many of
them serving more than one tour in the country.[/quote]
Now hopefully Germany can return to its old relationship with
Afghanistan:
(HTM) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan%E2%80%93Germany_relations
[quote]Afghanistan established close ties with Germany, now
under Adolf Hitler, in 1935 – forming important economic and
technical connections,[12] and seeking an alternative to its
historical position as a contested territory between the USSR
and Britain. Germany increased commercial transactions in
Afghanistan during this period, with a weekly Berlin-Kabul air
service established, and the Organisation Todt supervised major
infrastructure projects in the country.[13][/quote]
In order to do so, it must first eliminate the more Turanized
side within Germany:
[quote]East Germany supported the Soviet role in the
country[/quote]
In other words, it must eliminate the AfD whose support is
strongest in the former East Germany regions:
(HTM) https://books.google.com/books?id=00i8DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT115
See also:
(HTM) https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/afd/
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