Subj : Re: Impeachment or not
To   : Lee Lofaso
From : Dale Shipp
Date : Sat Jun 15 2019 03:03 am

 -=> On 06-15-19  01:52,  Lee Lofaso <=-
 -=> spoke to Ward Dossche about Impeachment or not <=-
 >GD>Yes I know, I watched it. He did appear to be clear and concise.
 >GD>(and yet Mueller did not speak of a crime that was committed by Trump)
 >
 >That is 100% correct.

I believe that Ward was saying it is 100% correct that Mueller did not
speak of a crime by Trump -- and it is true that Mueller did not say
directly that Trump had committed a crime.

 LL> Mueller did not exonerate Trump of having committed any crimes,
 LL> citing at least 10 instances dealing with obstruction of justice
 LL> in which Trump may be guilty.

 LL> Please do get your facts right.
 
 >Things can be proven however by the proof of the inexistence of the
 > opposite,

 LL> If it could have been shown that Trump was innocent, Bob Mueller
 LL> publicly stated he would have said so in his report.  Fact is, he
 LL> did not exonerate Trump, citing "insufficient evidence".
 
Your first sentence is accurate.  But "insufficient evidence" is not why
Mueller did not say that Trump committed the crime of obstruction.  As
he carefully laid out -- Mueller was not allowed to charge a sitting
President with a crime  and therefore could not say that a crime was
committed.  The "insufficient evidence" had to do with the possible
charge of conspiracy in collaborating with the Russians -- mainly that
he would have had to show that they (Jr., Kushner, and Manifort) knew
that it was a violation of campaign law to accept something of value
from a foreign government.  Many examples of contacts between campaign
officials and foreign governments were cited, but none for which a
charge of conspiracy could be reasonably charged with expectation of
conviction.

                               Dale Shipp
                  fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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