Subj : Re: Battling ICK on clown To : All From : John B Date : Tue Jan 13 2004 12:45 pm You should be doing a 25% water change before you dose. As for the cloudiness, I was going to say because of the temp change it might have been a bacterial bloom, but your tests don't show that. In most cases it takes up to 10 days to rid of all the ich because of the life cycles of the parasite. If the spots dissappear, continue treatment after a 25% water change. Also, in raising the temp so high you're not really helping anything. The heat will be causing stress on your fish resulting in lower immunity so even more fish might get sick. Their motabolism also races so you need to feed them more, resulting in higher nitrates..your temp should be fine ~80F. Don't quote me on this, but I'm not a fan of mixing medications, especially one that treats for external protozoa and the other treating for bacteria. I'm not sure if it would cause a problem, but maybe. You probably already have, but make sure your carbon is out :) HTH John. "Computer Prog" wrote in message news:455714d5.0401130712.63fd4e46@posting.google.com... > My 10G tank has been home to 2 small clown loaches, 2 guppies, and 2 > neons for about 6 months now. I got tired of scraping algae off the > inside of the tank every few weeks so I bought a very small Pleco. > The tank looked great for about a week and then I started to see ick > on the 2 clowns on Friday. > > I slowly raised the tank temp up to 85 degrees, added 2 tblsp of Doc > Wellfish Aquarium salt, and added a half-dose of Quick Cure > (formalin/malachite green) and a half dose of Maracyn II (anti > bacterial for secondary infections). I noticed that when I raised the > water temp the water got cloudy. Why is that? My water is usually > very clear. > > I added a second half dose of Quick Cure on Sunday. I tested PH, > ammonia, Nitrate, and Nitrite. PH was 6.8, ammonia close to zero, > Nitrate and Nitrite were a little elevated, but not near dangerous > levels. I planned to change water on the next day. > > On Monday I used a gravel vac to change about 30% of the water making > sure that the water I put back in was the same 85 degrees. I use a > Brita filter to clean the water before I put it in the tank. I added > a teaspoon of salt, another half-dose of Quick cure, and another > half-dose of Maracyn II. > > Today (Tuesday) I looked at the clowns and they still have the same > number of white spots. The heated water still looks cloudy. My > treatment does not appear to be doing anything. What am I doing > wrong? > > Why does the water get cloudy when raising the temperature? --- þ RIMEGate(tm)/RGXPost V1.14 at BBSWORLD * Info@bbsworld.com --- * RIMEGate(tm)V10.2áÿ* RelayNet(tm) NNTP Gateway * MoonDog BBS * RgateImp.MoonDog.BBS at 1/13/04 12:45:56 PM * Origin: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn,NY, 718 692-2498, 1:278/230 (1:278/230) .