Subj : Web access, false BBS ID
To   : ANDY BALL
From : MICHEL SAMSON
Date : Sun Oct 31 2004 07:53 am

Hi Andy,

     About "Telnet Vs SSH" of Octobre 30:

MS> You fail to take into account the context...
AB> ...don't expect readers to divine it through psychic means!  Also
AB> note that SSH and HTTPS are in no way tied to MS Windows.

     Oh!  My crysal ball shows you're becoming somewhat apprehensive, as
if your life would depend on it!  Why must you keep making me look as if
i made a statement or another and then steer topics in all directions?!?

                                  8-o

AB> Validation for an SSH or HTTPS session probably only lasts for the
AB> duration of that session.  It is not a reasonable basis for anything
AB> that happens after that session has ended.

     I appreciate the expert way in which you illustrate it, it's just i
don't try to make ~TelNet~ secure - only safer!...  Anyway, i favour the
prolonged support of this protocol, not a revision of it.  The objection
over UserNames/PassWords being sent legibly over ~TelNet~ was noted, you
got my reply.  Yet, the validation step can be done elsewhere via ~SSH~.

     That's it!  I guess you got "combining" translated to the letter...

MS> I see no reason why i'd be unable to validate thru ~SSH~ and then
MS> call a BBS thru unsecure ~TelNet~ SoftWare...
AB} I never said that you couldn't.

     I sense a trace of irritation while LEGACY BBSers are mentioned, my
reading of your late post tells me you're getting frustrated because our
little chat suffers from noise.  I never wrote that you said i couldn't,
and you didn't hear me say so - unless your mental powers were at work!?

AB> Tunnelling through an SSH connection is common practice.
AB> Use of the Web does not require MS Windows.

     Who wants to "Tunnel"?  It's OKay if "~POP3~ before ~SMTP~" doesn't
remind you of anything...  Andy, i don't get paid to have correspondance
on `FidoNet' and the intervention i addressed to mister Gordon was meant
to mention a failure observed on a ~WEB~-based BBS system.  I'll have to
ignore the rest, i find futile to correct more assertions about what i'm
supposed to think!  My .QWK message-packets don't need to go thru ~SSH~.

                                                           Salutations,

                                                           Michel Samson
                                                           a/s Bicephale


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