Subj : LSPPPDlr 2003 To : MICHEL SAMSON From : MATT GILBERT Date : Mon Dec 06 2004 10:42 pm Hi Michel, To clarify, your responses don't make me uncomfortable at all, far from it, I was just generally referring to some situations in the past not related to you... I checked out your site, and I sort of am 'getting it'. I grabbed IVT for DOS and sure enough it won't work with a standard packet driver loaded at 0x60, it seems to require PC/TCP and that's apparently not an option unless I fork out some dough.... So, I did some digging on my own, and I have come to the conclusion... and set me straight if I'm wrong, but GENERALLY I would want to do something along these lines - have lsppp establish a tcp/ip connection to my ISP, then have RLfossil (which I downloaded and read the docs) emulate a modem comport so that a terminal program, such as COMMO, or maybe telemate?? can make the connection, have I got the right concept? Then I went and downloaded most of the files on your 'glueware' page and have them still zipped up in a temporary directory, I'm not sure exactly where to go from here, as I'm not sure exactly where to unzip everything, but I'll keep studying it. Anyway, I'll get back to you and I am really excited about the possiblity of using a DOS machine to telnet into a bbs and actually transferring files with zmodem.... cheers, Matt -> Hi Matt, -> About "LSPPPDlr 2003" of December 5: -> MG> Tell me more about your 'commo' program... -> MS> ...`{Commo}' ISN'T FROM ME... -> MG> ...I ask a little tolerance and leeway... -> Granted. I've been the moving target of others so often these late -> years i regularily feel the need for this myself! %-) Most of the guys -> who address me usually sound like they've been "prepared" so i can't but -> welcome you... 8-) Anyway, i believe the thread can be read from here: -> http://fidonet.sensationcontent.com/echomail/dos_internet -> http://www.fidonet.m.nu/echomail/area/DOS_INTERNET/LIST=1 -> MG> ...the next thing I know I've got people jumping all over me for -> MG> saying the wrong thing in the wrong post at the wrong time... -> That feels familiar enough for me who has been posting on `FidoNet' -> for some time, which is why i refrained from warning you against using a -> `BBBS', `WildCat!' or similar pre-1985 3rd-party `Kermit' implementation -> when i read you about "Kermit for DOS" being "painfully slow": having a -> chance to correspond with DOS LEGACY BBSers like myself is so unique the -> warning could wait my next post i thought! It's refreshing reading you. -> 8,-b -> MG> ...if there is something that I, or someone else doesn't know, -> MG> should we be afraid to ask a question? -> If my reply makes you uncomfortable there's something wrong, either -> you never heard of me or what you know is somewhat biased... `LSPPPDlr' -> wouldn't still be On-Line today if i didn't really want to save you from -> the frustration; ask me questions and i'll answer as honestly as i can. -> MG> ...trying to figure out a way to dial up my ISP using a DOS ppp -> MG> connection and telnetting into a BBS and being able to go to the -> MG> files area and download using zmodem is something I've been -> MG> intrigued about for a long time. I really have to struggle... -> An image is worth a thousand words. You'll find that your transfer -> rates depend on the ~ISP~, the HardWare/SoftWare and the BBS being used; -> i've been lucky with all my ~ISP~s since none of them disabled a packet- -> driver by doing validation via ~MS-CHAP~ exclusively (it isn't supported -> by `EPPPD'/`LSPPP'), for example... as for the file transfer protocols, -> their availability and suitability will depend on your HardWare/SoftWare -> in combination with the remote host implementations. `{Commo}'/`ZMoDem' -> seems OKay on my P-200 Mhz MMX but it doesn't "degrade" as gracefully as -> `Kermit' on more modest systems (unless `BBBS-Kermit'/`WC-Kermit' is the -> only alternative to it)... I have 8088 PCs and later, let me know about -> your setup and i'll try to tell you what .ZIP cps rate you can dream of. -> ;^) -> MG> ...I'll take a look at what you've got. I'm actually using -> MG> BANANACOM right now, dialed into the last remaining BBS here... -> I don't recall re-evaluating `BananaCom' in this century, i do know -> i didn't retain it as a candidate when i searched for terminal emulators -> with the features required for an external ~PPP~ packet-driver dialer in -> any case - which was long before i switched to "Plan-B" (~TelNet~ only). -> Luckily, *IF* `BananaCom' supports ~FOSSIL~ interfacing, you should -> be able to use your favourite SoftWare without much help from `{Commo}'s -> `LSPPPDlr' macro: simply generate some `SetPPP.BAT' + `LogIn.BAT' setup -> thru `{Commo}'s Wizard then switch to `COMTool'. I must testify that my -> 8088s made an unforgiving test-bench and that `{Commo}' sure passed this -> test, though... Who would start from the ground up anyway? I wouldn't! -> I mention ~FOSSIL~ because i don't expect to hear about `BananaCom' -> supporting ~TelNet~ internally. Is v4 still the last realease there is? -> Salutations, ;-) -> Michel Samson -> a/s Bicephale -> http://public.sogetel.net/bicephale/ -> ... DOS+TCP/IP+TelNet+ZMoDem/Kermit+.QWK technologies on 8088s or higher -> -!- MultiMail/MS-DOS v0.45 - It could make TelNet OLMR BBSing UNIVERSAL! -> --- Mail-ennium/32 v2.0-beta-r1 -> * Origin: Mail-ennium/32 v2 Beta Coming Soon! (1:379/1200.0) --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5a * Origin: FidoTel & QWK on the Web! www.fidotel.com (1:275/311) .