Subj : Analog modems in the digital age. To : All From : James Digriz Date : Wed Apr 04 2018 05:11 pm Since I've just gotten back into BBS'ing and Fidonet, I thought I'd get some perspectives from folks on analog modems, the PSTN, and dial-up BBS'ing. This seems relevant even if most people seem to be running strictly IP nodes anymore, given the history of Fidonet's now much less relevant zone:net/node structure for minimizing connection costs. Even if that is likely to remain, even if only an historical artifact, it occurs to me that it's something that should be retained even if, as is already happening in a lot of places, copper wires, T1's, and even ISDN and DSL as well, are now being obsoleted. It could be relevent for mesh WiFi networks, for instance. The local ILEC, for instance, no longer advertises their (former?) dial-up Internet and has moved past DSL to fiber, offering symmetric gigabit capacity for less than the price of a T1. This is all fine and dandy, but there doesn't seem to be any straightforward way to do DCE to DCE communications over IP, absent expensive proprietary software, for the most part on expensive proprietary networking switches and routers. I haven't had occasion to order a voice phone line that ran over fiber yet, but I'm hearing that even with proper QoS, the voice bandwidth is just not there for analog data connections. Any insight there would be welcome. I could be wrong on that. There is a 2003 ITU recommendation, V.150.1, otherwise known as V.MOIP, that addresses this, but again there seem to be only costly proprietary products available. There are other, basically half-measures, such as iaxmodem, or various tricks using SIP signaling combined with G.711, RTP, etc. that are limited in bandwidth to about 9600 baud, and less than completely reliable, for fax and possibly data modem connections. Yeah, I have an old Total Control chassis loaded with quad V.34 modems, and if T1's are still available here, I could set up a multi-line dial-up system, but I'm thinking some kind of open-source V.150.1 implementation might be worth pursuing, given all the myriad other legacy analog DCE equipment still out there. If the patent issues on a lot of the other V. stuff. Appreciate any comments or direction, and sorry if this is well-trod ground in this echo. Greetings, James Digriz email: jbdigriz@bbs.dragonsweb.org --- MBSE BBS v1.0.7.4 (GNU/Linux-x86_64) * Origin: DragonsWeb Labs (1:123/755) .