Subj : Re: 45 acp amo
To   : Moondog
From : Gamgee
Date : Sun Sep 12 2021 02:42 pm

-=> Moondog wrote to Gamgee <=-

 >  Mo> Reloading is the best way to go if you shoot alot.  You can
 >  Mo> invest several hundred in equipment, but it will pay for itself
 >  Mo> in no time.

 > Actually, it's realistically several thousand, and it will take quite a
 > long while to actually make that "pay for itself".  Don't get me wrong,
 > it's a great idea, and I do it myself, but it's not really that much
 > cheaper, especially if you factor in the value of your time.

 Mo> I'm not sure if I mentioned before it depends on the grade of
 Mo> ammo you are producing.  Match grade/ benchrest ammo will save
 Mo> you more money than recreating 9mm hardball or 55gr .223 for
 Mo> plinking.

Very true, and that wasn't mentioned before...  What was said was 
"shooting a lot", which probably isn't referencing match-grade ammo.

 Mo>  I used to break even when I reloaded shotshells, then
 Mo> when I began producing specialty loads such as lig hter recoiling
 Mo> 1oz loads for the 12 ga, it really paid off because I don't know
 Mo> of many places you can find them.

Yeah, shotshells have always been break-even-at-best, generally 
speaking.  A 1oz load for a 12 ga doesn't kick enough to even fiddle 
with.  I generally shoot 1 1/8 oz loads, 3 dram equiv, 1200 fps of #8
(for skeet / sporting clays).

 Mo> Regarding hundreds or thousands, it also depends on how far you
 Mo> go.  I don't run a Dillon progressive.  My presses are single
 Mo> stage.  If I shot IDPA or steel challenge, I would probably
 Mo> invest in a larger press than can put out several hundred rounds
 Mo> an hour.  For now, it's smaller batches of ammo for ladder
 Mo> testing.

Ahhh, OK again it was a little confusing because originally you said "if 
you shoot a lot".  If you're shooting "a lot" of reloaded ammo, one 
would assume a progressive.  And yes, a Dillon XL650 with all the 
trimmings will be several thousand.  ;-)

 Mo>  I would like to dial in a nice 77gr Vmax load that will
 Mo> let me reach out to the woodchucks and raccoons at the edge of
 Mo> the woods.

A worthy goal there, and not real simple.  Also need to have a barrel 
with the right spin ratio for those 77's.  Good luck!


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