Subj : Re:
To   : Arelor
From : Moondog
Date : Wed Apr 13 2022 11:24 pm

  Re: Re:
  By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Apr 13 2022 07:06 am

 >   Re: Re:
 >   By: poindexter FORTRAN to Thumper on Tue Apr 12 2022 07:02 am
 > 
 >  > -=> Thumper wrote to All <=-
 >  >
 >  >  Th> These tyrants demonize advances in firearm technology and invent ter
 >  >  Th> like "ghost guns" to scare the uninformed into supporting their agen
 >  >
 >  > I think they're more scared about the fact that mass shootings are becomi
 >  > normalized in people's minds, because they happen so god damned often.
 >  >
 >  >  Th> But the truth is, the self-manufacturing of firearms is something
 >  >  Th> deeply rooted in American tradition and protected by the Constitutio
 >  >
 >  > Are there precedents regarding home firearm manufacturing and modificatio
 >  > in case law? Not being a smart ass, actually curious.
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > ... Two protons expelled at each coupling site creates the mode of force
 > 
 > As a matter of fact, politicians don't care if there is crime or shootings o
 > four horsemen of the Apocalypse ravaging the country, since bad stuff happen
 > to the poor   but not to them. Most of the time they do something for the go
 > of the people, there is a clear hidden reason. If it actually helps people i
 > is accidental.
 > 
 > The new Spanish tax on sweet drinks comes to mind. The argument for imposing
 > was that it was aimed at reducing comsumption of drinks with excess sugar. I
 > reality, the tax was applied to a lot of drinks with no sugar. They used fea
 > from sugar as an excuse for pushing a law that gave them more power of the
 > entirety of the drink industry and affected a lot of manufacturers who had
 > nothing to do with the alleged excuse.
 > 
 > Surely, you see how this works.
 > 
 > If they were scared of guns manufactured in underground workshops being used
 > for active shootings, it would be interesting to see how many unregistered g
 > have been manufactured and used for one of those in an underground workshop.
 > bet not many. Spain is an example of a country with a tight supply of
 > commercial weapon parts, which makes it the sort of place in which baddies
 > would turn to underground manufacturing, and while there are underground
 > blacksmiths, baddies main sources of guns here are civil war stashes, corrup
 > law enforcers an Eastern Europe Smugglers.
 > 
 > Afaik homemade guns are explicitly legal in a number of US States.
 > 
 > 
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 > 

Home made firearms are legal as long as you're making them for personal use. 
manufacturing for profit is illegal.

Regarding criminal activity with "ghost guns," they're not actual acts of viol
ence.  They are arrests of individuals who are prohibited from legally owning
a firearm getting caught with one.  Home made firearms are nothing new.  The
difference is people can buy CNC mini mills that fit on a table top that do
all the precision work.

Years ago I saw a builder's blog where the gunsmith bought a shovel at the
local big box hardware store, and used a bending brake, a saw, a drill and a
hammer cut and bend the shovel scoop into an AK receiver.  Excess metal used t
o create smaller pieces of the receiver that required welding in place.  The
buttstock was made from the handle.  the rest of the gun was surplus parts
that require no special paperwork to own.  Most military arms made aroiund
and after WWII were made of stamped pieces spot welded together.  the complex
parts were firing components, the bolt, and the rifled barrel.

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