Subj : Re: Thoughts and Musings To : BOB KLAHN From : alexander koryagin Date : Thu Nov 13 2014 12:22 pm Hi, BOB KLAHN! I read your message from 12.11.2014 21:06 BK>>> So, my musing analysis leads to this question, when you reach the BK>>> point where you can't actually tell if a computer's response is BK>>> just a program line, or actual intelligence, can that be BK>>> considered the dividing line between programming and artificial BK>>> intelligence? Suppose you have two logical tasks. They can be done both by a human or a robot. The dividing line that exists between a human and robot lies not in the logic. A live being can feel happiness, emotions, love -- in short things that cannot be programmed or defined as an algorithm. So, there is no difference between programming and artificial intelligence. And we can also say that human feelings have nothing to do with intelligence, and human feelings never will be programmed in robots. Because the core of the matter is a human consciousness, that is an incorporial thing. More of that, nobody understand it, not speaking about reproduction. AK>> A strange question. How do you suppose to create artificial AK>> intelligence without programming? So, according to atheists BK> Well, they would. The question is, when is the programming good BK> enough to be intelligence? Making robots is easy. They can do (repeat) any intelligent tasks. But nobody knows how to create consciousness and awareness of self. Or to understand what is inspiration.... Bye, BOB! Alexander Koryagin fido7.debate 2014 --- FIDOGATE 5.1.7ds * Origin: Pushkin's BBS (2:5020/2140.2) .