Subj : Re: New Mazda To : esc From : Blue White Date : Fri May 26 2023 09:14 am -=> esc wrote to Blue White <=- es> If I have to use a touchscreen to mess with the climate control....lol. es> I hope more OEMs start going back to hardware buttons for the critical es> things. I had a 2013 Ford Fussion with the touchscreen (with a "Powered by Microsoft" logo on the bezel). It was ok when it was working right. However, it had a bad way of just turning the climate control on when I was not touching the screen. I was driving down the highway one day and it kicked the defrost on full fan and full HOT. It was one of those days where it was not cold enough to have heat on, and not hot enough to need the A/C, but it was warm enough that having HOT air blowing in my face was not at all pleasant. Whenever it did this, you could not turn it off. You had to find a place to pull over, turn off the car, pull the key out of the ignition, and then wait a couple of seconds before restarting. Considering that they'd had touchscreens in their cars for a few years by that point, you'd think that bugs like that would be ironed out by then. Once, I experienced what is apparently the Ford/M$ version of the "blue screen of death." IIRC, a couple of years later, they switched the system to be powered by a non-M$ OS. Otherwise, I really liked the car, so I traded it on a 2016 model that didn't have the touchscreen. I had driven one on a long enough business trip to realize I liked that a lot more. :) .... Spelling is a sober man's game --- MultiMail/DOS * Origin: possumso.fsxnet.nz * SSH:2122/telnet:24/ftelnet:80 (21:4/134) .